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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Opt-in full-RBF] Zero-conf apps in immediate
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Good morning John, et al,


> > As has been pointed out by may others before, full RBF is aligned with =
miner (and user) economic incentives
>=20
>=20
> This is a theory, not a fact. I can refute this theory by pointing out se=
veral aspects:
> 1. RBF is actually a fee-minimization feature that allows users to game t=
he system to spend the *least* amount in fees that correlates to their time=
-preference. Miners earn less when fees can be minimized (obviously). This =
feature also comes at an expense (albeit small) to nodes providing replacem=
ent service and propagation.

It is helpful to remember that the fees are a price on confirmation.
And in economics, there is a "price theory":

* As price goes down, demand goes up.
* As price goes up, net-earning-per-unit goes up.

The combination of both forces causes a curve where *total* earnings vs pri=
ce has a peak somewhere, an "optimum price", and that peak is *unlikely* to=
 be at the maximum possible price you might deem reasonable.
And this optimum price may very well be *lower* than the prevailing market =
price of a good.

Thus, saying "RBF is actually a fee-minimization feature" neglects the econ=
omics of the situation.
If more people could use RBF onchain, more people would use Bitcoin and inc=
rease the value to miners.

Rather than a fee-minimization feature, RBF is really an optimization to *s=
peed up* the discovery of the optimum price, and is thus desirable.

Unfortunately many 0-conf acceptors outright reject opt-in-RBF, despite the=
 improved discovery of the optimum price, and thus there is a need for full=
-RBF to improve price discovery of blockspace when such acceptors are too p=
revalent.

Regards,
ZmnSCPxj