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I like "reusable address".
It is very clear what the intended purpose is and gives a subtle hint that
other types of address should not be re-used.
On 16 January 2014 00:44, Eric Martindale <eric@ericmartindale.com> wrote:
> One variation of this, "recycled address", might avert misconceptions that
> the "re-use" is exclusive to one's own identity.
>
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> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Jeremy Spilman <jeremy@taplink.co> wrote:
>
>> Might I propose "reusable address".
>>
>> I think that describes it best to any non-programmer, and even more so
>> encourages wallets to present options as 'one time use' vs 'reusable'.
>>
>> It definitely packs a marketing punch which could help drive adoption.
>> The feature is only useful if/when broadly adopted.
>>
>> I think it meets all the criteria required:
>>
>> - Communication between parties is a single message from the payee,
>> which may be public
>> - Multiple payments to the same address are not publicly linkable on
>> the blockchain
>> - The payee has explicitly designated they expect to receive more than
>> one payment at that address
>> - Payer can publicly prove they made a payment to the reusable address
>> by revealing a secret
>>
>> I have high hopes for this feature. The war *against* address reuse may
>> soon be a distant memory.
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 12:44:17 -0800, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> "static address" seems like a reasonable attempt at describing intended
>> use/direction.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Ben Davenport <bendavenport@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > But may I suggest we consider changing the name "stealth address" to
>>> > something more neutral?
>>>
>>> ACK. Regardless of the 'political' overtones, I think stealth is a
>>> little cringe-worthy.
>>>
>>> "Private address" would be fine if not for confusion with private-keys.
>>>
>>> "Static address" is perhaps the best in my view. (also helps improve
>>> awareness that normal addresses are intended to be more one-use-ness)
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I like "reusable address".=C2=A0<div><br></div><=
div>It is very clear what the intended purpose is and gives a subtle hint t=
hat other types of address should not be re-used.<div><br></div></div></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 16 January 2014 00:44, Eric Martindal=
e <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:eric@ericmartindale.com" target=
=3D"_blank">eric@ericmartindale.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">One variation of this, "recycled address", might=
avert misconceptions that the "re-use" is exclusive to one's=
own identity.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"><br>Eric Martindale, relen=
tless maker.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"><a href=
=3D"http://www.ericmartindale.com/" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.ericmartindale.com</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"tel:%2B1%20%28919%29%20374-2020" value=3D"+19193742020" tar=
get=3D"_blank">+1 (919) 374-2020</a><font face=3D"arial">=C2=A0|=C2=A0</fon=
t><b style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">BitMessage:=C2=A0</b><a st=
yle=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small;color:rgb(17,85,204)">BM-2cWCmYBpV=
64FRSJpHHKWi1Cfc9W52jydwe</a></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"><b>Note:</b>=C2=A0Beginnin=
g December 11th, 2013, I will only be intermittently available via email, S=
MS, and BitMessage. =C2=A0As a courtesy, please leave a detailed message so=
that I can respond in kind. =C2=A0Thanks!</div>
</div></div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 a=
t 7:05 PM, Jeremy Spilman <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jeremy@ta=
plink.co" target=3D"_blank">jeremy@taplink.co</a>></span> wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div class=3D"h5">
<u></u>
<div><div>Might I propose "reusable address".<br><br>I think that=
describes it best to any non-programmer, and even more so encourages walle=
ts to present options as 'one time use' vs 'reusable'.</div=
>
<div><br></div><div>It definitely packs a marketing punch which could help =
drive adoption. The feature is only useful if/when broadly adopted.<br><br>=
I think it meets all the criteria required:</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0=
- Communication between parties is a single message from the payee, which =
may be public</div>
<div>=C2=A0 - Multiple payments to the same address are not publicly linkab=
le on the blockchain</div><div>=C2=A0 - The payee has explicitly designated=
they expect to receive more than one payment at that address</div><div>=C2=
=A0 - Payer can publicly prove they made a payment to the reusable address =
by revealing a secret</div>
<div><br></div><div>I have high hopes for this feature. The war *against* a=
ddress reuse may soon be a distant memory.</div><div><div><br></div><div>On=
Wed, 15 Jan 2014 12:44:17 -0800, Jeff Garzik <<a href=3D"mailto:jgarzik=
@bitpay.com" target=3D"_blank">jgarzik@bitpay.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0.80ex;border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">"static address" seems like a =
reasonable attempt at describing intended use/direction.<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Gregory Maxwell <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:gmaxwell@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gmaxwell@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Ben D=
avenport <<a href=3D"mailto:bendavenport@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">be=
ndavenport@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> But may I suggest we consider changing the name "stealth address&=
quot; to<br>
> something more neutral?<br>
<br>
</div>ACK. =C2=A0Regardless of the 'political' overtones, I think s=
tealth is a<br>
little cringe-worthy.<br>
<br>
"Private address" would be fine if not for confusion with private=
-keys.<br>
<br>
"Static address" is perhaps the best in my view. (also helps impr=
ove<br>=C2=A0awareness that normal addresses are intended to be more one-us=
e-ness)</blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br></div></div><d=
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