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That's what I was trying to say... The researchers are deanonymizing
transactions from non-Tor connected hosts. So why are we talking about Tor
limitations in response to this? Shouldn't we be discussing how to address
the issues in Bitcoin proper?

M

On 11/27/2014 9:30 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 5:44 PM, <misterbg6@gmail.com> wrote:

I might be mistaken, but it seems to me this paper discusses unintended ways
of obtaining the IP addresses of clients involved in transactions on the
core Bitcoin network.

You're mistaken. :)

If a node is used exclusively via tor it effectively doesn't have a IP address.

(short of bugs of a class that aren't discussed here)

The paper is about fingerprinting approaches that probabilistically
connect transactions to hosts that you can already identify their IPs.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>That&#39;s what I was trying to say... The researcher=
s are deanonymizing transactions from non-Tor connected hosts. So why are w=
e talking about Tor limitations in response to this? Shouldn&#39;t we be di=
scussing how to address the issues in Bitcoin proper?<br><br></div>M<br><br=
><div><div>
<div class=3D"">On 11/27/2014 9:30 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote cite=3D"mid:CAAS2fgR65CW41V2z0b6mxGYyVavuYQfMGEV7B00ogWrwOXA+_A=
@mail.gmail.com" type=3D"cite">
  <pre>On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 5:44 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:misterbg6@gma=
il.com">misterbg6@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
</pre>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite"><pre>I might be mistaken, but it seems to me th=
is paper discusses unintended ways
of obtaining the IP addresses of clients involved in transactions on the
core Bitcoin network.
</pre></blockquote>
  <pre>You&#39;re mistaken. :)

If a node is used exclusively via tor it effectively doesn&#39;t have a IP =
address.

(short of bugs of a class that aren&#39;t discussed here)

The paper is about fingerprinting approaches that probabilistically
connect transactions to hosts that you can already identify their IPs.
</pre>


</blockquote>
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