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I wonder are there any other blockers or modifications that need to be
made for this to be merged?

Latest version of the document:
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On 13/02/15 23:43, Thomas Kerin wrote:
>
> On 12/02/15 22:13, Luke Dashjr wrote:
>> Where is the Specification section?? Does this support arbitrary
scripts, or
>> only the simplest CHECKMULTISIG case?
>
> The BIP is a process for deriving only the type of scripts you would
encounter doing addmultisigaddress. More complicated scripts would
require more metadata to be shared, but the only case we describe is
when given public keys and the number of signatures required.
>
> You're right, we're missing a Specification. I have tweaked the
document to cover this now.
>
>
>
> On 13/02/15 07:53, Peter Todd wrote:
>> It might be enough to rewrite this BIP to basically say "all pubkeys
executed by all CHECKMULTISIG opcodes will be in the following canonical
order", followed by some explanatory examples of how to apply this
simple rule. OTOH we don't yet have a standard way of even talking about
arbitrary scripts, so it may very well turn out to be the case that the
above rule is too restrictive in many cases - I certainly would not want
to do a soft-fork to enforce this, or even make it an IsStandard() rule.
>
> It would be interesting, but I agree it should not be brought into
these validation rules - just a convention for people to follow for now.
I think it's fair that implementers are free to order them however they
please. But I think there is good reason for wallets to opt in to the
convention and declare this, for ease of recovery, and for
interoperability reasons.
>
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    I wonder are there any other blockers or modifications that need to
    be made for this to be merged?<br>
    <br>
    Latest version of the document:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/afk11/bips/blob/213e8a27a3a2eaaf44f79221a9f9f888af002801/bip-0067.mediawiki">https://github.com/afk11/bips/blob/213e8a27a3a2eaaf44f79221a9f9f888af002801/bip-0067.mediawiki</a><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 13/02/15 23:43, Thomas Kerin wrote:<br>
    <span style="white-space: pre;">&gt;<br>
      &gt; On 12/02/15 22:13, Luke Dashjr wrote:<br>
      &gt;&gt; Where is the Specification section?? Does this support
      arbitrary scripts, or <br>
      &gt;&gt; only the simplest CHECKMULTISIG case?<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; The BIP is a process for deriving only the type of scripts
      you would encounter doing addmultisigaddress. More complicated
      scripts would require more metadata to be shared, but the only
      case we describe is when given public keys and the number of
      signatures required.<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; You're right, we're missing a Specification. I have tweaked
      the document to cover this now.<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; On 13/02/15 07:53, Peter Todd wrote:<br>
      &gt;&gt; It might be enough to rewrite this BIP to basically say
      "all pubkeys executed by all CHECKMULTISIG opcodes will be in the
      following canonical order", followed by some explanatory examples
      of how to apply this simple rule. OTOH we don't yet have a
      standard way of even talking about arbitrary scripts, so it may
      very well turn out to be the case that the above rule is too
      restrictive in many cases - I certainly would not want to do a
      soft-fork to enforce this, or even make it an IsStandard() rule.<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; It would be interesting, but I agree it should not be brought
      into these validation rules - just a convention for people to
      follow for now. I think it's fair that implementers are free to
      order them however they please. But I think there is good reason
      for wallets to opt in to the convention and declare this, for ease
      of recovery, and for interoperability reasons. <br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; -- <br>
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