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On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 6:03 PM Ryan Grant via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 2:47 AM Buck O Perley via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> First just wanted to thank you
> for taking the initiative to
> > put this together. I think that as the community and
> > ecosystem continue to grow, it's going to be an important
> > part of the process to have groups like this develop. Hopefully
> > they allow us to resist the "Tyranny of Structurelessness" without
> > resorting to formalized governance processes and systems.
>
> Huh, lots of reading material behind that phrase. I'd heard it
> before, but hadn't looked it up.
>
> > > Defining a communication channel is still an open question: IRC, Slack,
> > Discord, Discourse, ...
> >
> > I would vote against Slack. IRC is probably the best but maybe too
> > high a barrier to entry? Publishing logs at least would counter
> > concerns of it being exclusive. Maybe discord as an alternative.
>
> I found Discord immediately wanted a phone number from me. I think
> IRC remains the lowest bar for participants to contribute.
>
>
Agreed, anything that requires a phone number makes it difficult to be
pseudonymous.
I recommend Matrix, since it doesn't require any privacy invasive
information and has e2ee by default for 1-1 conversations.
The Matrix room could optionally bridge to IRC if there is a significant
demand for that.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 6:03 PM Ryan Gran=
t via bitcoin-dev <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.o=
rg">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Mon,=
Sep 12, 2022 at 2:47 AM Buck O Perley via bitcoin-dev<br>
<<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> First just wanted to than=
k you<br>
for taking the initiative to<br>
> put this together. I think that as the community and<br>
> ecosystem continue to grow, it's going to be an important<br>
> part of the process to have groups like this develop. Hopefully<br>
> they allow us to resist the "Tyranny of Structurelessness" w=
ithout<br>
> resorting to formalized governance processes and systems.<br>
<br>
Huh, lots of reading material behind that phrase.=C2=A0 I'd heard it<br=
>
before, but hadn't looked it up.<br>
<br>
> > Defining a communication channel is still an open question: IRC, =
Slack,<br>
> Discord, Discourse, ...<br>
><br>
> I would vote against Slack. IRC is probably the best but maybe too<br>
> high a barrier to entry? Publishing logs at least would counter<br>
> concerns of it being exclusive. Maybe discord as an alternative.<br>
<br>
I found Discord immediately wanted a phone number from me.=C2=A0 I think<br=
>
IRC remains the lowest bar for participants to contribute.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agreed, anything that requires a phone=
number makes it difficult to be pseudonymous.<br></div><div><br></div><div=
>I recommend Matrix, since it doesn't require any privacy invasive info=
rmation and has e2ee by default for 1-1 conversations. <br></div><div><br><=
/div><div>The Matrix room could optionally bridge to IRC if there is a sign=
ificant demand for that. <br></div><div><br></div></div></div>
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