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A border router that is not able to serve blocks is still protecting =
consensus rules, that SPVs do not.
If the network would only consist of SPV nodes only then e.g. a majority =
coalition of miner could increase their reward at will.

Archives need a different solution.

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On 09.04.2014, at 17:47, Mark Friedenbach <mark@monetize.io> wrote:

> On 04/09/2014 09:09 AM, Tamas Blummer wrote:
>> Yes, SPV is a sufficient API to a trusted node to build sophisticated
>> features not offered by the core.
>> SPV clients of the border router will build their own archive and
>> indices based on their interest of the chain therefore the
>> border router core does not need to store (and process) anything not
>> needed for consensus, its memory
>> or disk footprint would be as low as an optimal storage of UTXO.
>=20
> Storing zero full blocks does nothing to aid the network.


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trusted node to build sophisticated<br>features not offered by the =
core.<br>SPV clients of the border router will build their own archive =
and<br>indices based on their interest of the chain therefore =
the<br>border router core does not need to store (and process) anything =
not<br>needed for consensus, its memory<br>or disk footprint would be as =
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