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It's amazing how foolish some people are to continue trusting governments
especially in light of recent history: a seemingly endless, Orwellian 'war
on terror', multiple regional conflicts often justified by fake evidence,
wholesale disregard of law and basic human covenants such as do not
torture, ubiquitous and secret global surveillance.
Anyone who doesn't consider governments the proper threat model is either a
shill or an idiot.
On Sep 20, 2015 12:34 PM, "Milly Bitcoin via bitcoin-dev" <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Until this is settled, Bitcoin has no clear direction and developers
>> cannot make effective decisions:
>>
>
> How exactly do things set "settled" in this environment?
>
> People looking at Bitcoin think a small group of developers and miners
> "control" these decisions. Not sure if "control" is the right word but
> that is the perception.
>
> Russ
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<p dir=3D"ltr">It's amazing how foolish some people are to continue tru=
sting governments especially in light of recent history: a seemingly endles=
s, Orwellian 'war on terror', multiple regional conflicts often jus=
tified by fake evidence, wholesale disregard of law and basic human covenan=
ts such as do not torture, ubiquitous and secret global surveillance.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Anyone who doesn't consider governments the proper threa=
t model is either a shill or an idiot. </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 20, 2015 12:34 PM, "Milly Bitcoin vi=
a bitcoin-dev" <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation=
.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attri=
bution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Until this is settled, Bitcoin has no clear direction and developers cannot=
make effective decisions:<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
How exactly do things set "settled" in this environment?<br>
<br>
People looking at Bitcoin think a small group of developers and miners &quo=
t;control" these decisions.=C2=A0 Not sure if "control" is t=
he right word but that is the perception.<br>
<br>
Russ<br>
<br>
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