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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP0039 Mnemonic code for generating
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Getting OT...
For a while I've wanted to combine one of these mnemonic code generators
with an NLP engine to do something like output a short story as the
passphrase, even a humorous onem with the key encoded in the story
itself (remember the gist of the story and that's sufficient to
reconstruct the key).
Also, obligatory link about the failures of unsanitized word lists:
http://iam.peteashton.com/keep-calm-rape-tshirt-amazon/
It can really backfire to get one of these things wrong.
Mark
On 9/10/13 3:08 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Matthew Mitchell
> <matthewmitchell@godofgod.co.uk> wrote:
>> Well let's hope something like "murder black people", "stupid asian person" or "whip african slave" doesn't come up. :-) Maybe it would have been better without the aggressive words?
>
> Ouch.
>
> This sounds like something that $20 of mechanical turk time could help
> out with a lot. Put up the 2048 words and ask people to rate them for
> potential offensiveness and threatening. :)
>
> Nouns often make for fairly neutral words, though careful for place
> names which have had political complications. E.g. gdansk vs danzig.
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