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I would prefer a dynamic solution that did not necessitate a second hard
fork down the road.

I propose doubling the block size every 100k blocks (~2 years)

block 400,000 = 2MB (2016)
block 500,000 = 4MB (2017)
block 600,000 = 8MB (2018)

Chris


On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Ross Nicoll via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

>  I'd back this if we can't find a permanent solution - 2MB gives us a lot
> more wiggle room in the interim at least; one of my concerns with block
> size is 3 transactions per second is absolutely tiny, and we need space for
> the network to search for an equilibrium between volume and pricing without
> risk of an adoption spike rendering it essentially unusable.
>
> I'd favour switching over by block height rather than time, and I'd
> suggest that given virtually every wallet/node out there will require
> testing (even if many do not currently enforce a limit and therefore do not
> need changing), 6 months should be considered a minimum target. I'd open
> with a suggestion of block 390k as a target.
>
> Ross
>
>
> On 17/07/2015 16:55, Jeff Garzik via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>
>  Opening a mailing list thread on this BIP:
>
>  BIP PR: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/173
> Code PR: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6451
>
>  The general intent of this BIP is as a minimum viable alternative plan
> to my preferred proposal (BIP 100).
>
>  If agreement is not reached on a more comprehensive solution, then this
> solution is at least available and a known quantity.  A good backup plan.
>
>  Benefits:  conservative increase.  proves network can upgrade.  permits
> some added growth, while the community & market gathers data on how an
> increased block size impacts privacy, security, centralization, transaction
> throughput and other metrics.  2MB seems to be a Least Common Denominator
> on an increase.
>
>  Costs:  requires a hard fork.  requires another hard fork down the road.
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>I would prefer a dynamic solution=
 that did not necessitate a second hard fork down the road.<br><br></div>I =
propose doubling the block size every 100k blocks (~2 years)<br><br></div>b=
lock 400,000 =3D 2MB (2016)<br></div>block 500,000 =3D 4MB (2017)<br></div>=
block 600,000 =3D 8MB (2018)<br><br></div>Chris<br><div><div><br></div></di=
v></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, J=
ul 17, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Ross Nicoll via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">b=
itcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex">
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  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    I&#39;d back this if we can&#39;t find a permanent solution - 2MB gives=
 us a
    lot more wiggle room in the interim at least; one of my concerns
    with block size is 3 transactions per second is absolutely tiny, and
    we need space for the network to search for an equilibrium between
    volume and pricing without risk of an adoption spike rendering it
    essentially unusable.<br>
    <br>
    I&#39;d favour switching over by block height rather than time, and I&#=
39;d
    suggest that given virtually every wallet/node out there will
    require testing (even if many do not currently enforce a limit and
    therefore do not need changing), 6 months should be considered a
    minimum target. I&#39;d open with a suggestion of block 390k as a
    target.<br>
    <br>
    Ross<div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
    <br>
    <div>On 17/07/2015 16:55, Jeff Garzik via
      bitcoin-dev wrote:<br>
    </div>
    </div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"h5">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div>Opening a mailing list thread on this BIP:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        BIP PR:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/173" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/173</a>
        <div>Code PR:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pu=
ll/6451" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6451</a>=
</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>The general intent of this BIP is as a minimum viable
          alternative plan to my preferred proposal (BIP 100).</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>If agreement is not reached on a more comprehensive
          solution, then this solution is at least available and a known
          quantity.=C2=A0 A good backup plan.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Benefits: =C2=A0conservative increase. =C2=A0proves network ca=
n
          upgrade. =C2=A0permits some added growth, while the community &am=
p;
          market gathers data on how an increased block size impacts
          privacy, security, centralization, transaction throughput and
          other metrics. =C2=A02MB seems to be a Least Common Denominator o=
n
          an increase.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Costs: =C2=A0requires a hard fork. =C2=A0requires another hard=
 fork
          down the road.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
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