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I=92m inclined to agree, as this was discussed on multiple occasions and =
seems to fix a lot of the address re-use problems. With hot topics like =
=93coin validation=94, I think it=92s important to highlight the privacy =
that generating fresh addresses from public extended keys grants us.

Also thinking about implications regarding non-merchant use of Payment =
Protocol, encouraging the exchange of extended public keys instead of a =
single address could be a boon for Payment Protocol to actually be =
useful for users. Initially, the idea was that the merchant would =
generate a new address from an extended key and include that in the =
Payment Request. How do we handle pushing the extended public key down =
to the wallet itself? Do we just shoehorn the exchange of keys into the =
Payment Protocol itself via a special tag or would this require more =
substantive change? Services could develop to facilitate the exchange =
(acting as a sort of =93PP gateway=94) or wallet software might be able =
to directly communicate, perhaps by exchanging PGP-encrypted files in =
Payment Protocol format via Bluetooth, AirDrop, email, BitMessage, or =
whatever future communications channel comes into being.=20

Thanks again to Peter for putting together a consolidated list of =
topics!

Taylor



On Dec 19, 2013, at 2:40 PM, caedes <caedes@sindominio.net> wrote:

> I feel it's missing mention of using (or not) *extended public keys*
> from bip 32 to share multiple addresses in one go, so regular payments
> can be done without asking for further addresses. Also since whoever =
has
> the extended key can generate public keys this might help P2SH where =
the
> public key is also needed.


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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;"><div>I=92m inclined to agree, as this was discussed =
on multiple occasions and seems to fix a lot of the address re-use =
problems. With hot topics like =93coin validation=94, I think it=92s =
important to highlight the privacy that generating fresh addresses from =
public extended keys grants us.</div><div><br></div><div>Also thinking =
about implications regarding non-merchant use of Payment Protocol, =
encouraging the exchange of extended public keys instead of a single =
address could be a boon for Payment Protocol to actually be useful for =
users. Initially, the idea was that the merchant would generate a new =
address from an extended key and include that in the Payment Request. =
How do we handle pushing the extended public key down to the wallet =
itself? Do we just shoehorn the exchange of keys into the Payment =
Protocol itself via a special tag or would this require more substantive =
change? Services could develop to facilitate the exchange (acting as a =
sort of =93PP gateway=94) or wallet software might be able to directly =
communicate, perhaps by exchanging PGP-encrypted files in Payment =
Protocol format via Bluetooth, AirDrop, email, BitMessage, or whatever =
future communications channel comes into =
being.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again to Peter for putting =
together a consolidated list of =
topics!</div><div><br></div><div>Taylor</div><div><br></div><div><br></div=
><br><div><div>On Dec 19, 2013, at 2:40 PM, caedes &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:caedes@sindominio.net">caedes@sindominio.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: =
none; display: inline !important;">I feel it's missing mention of using =
(or not) *extended public keys*</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;">from bip 32 to share multiple =
addresses in one go, so regular payments</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;">can be done without asking for =
further addresses. Also since whoever has</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;">the extended key can generate =
public keys this might help P2SH where the</span><br style=3D"font-family:=
 Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; =
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;">public key is also =
needed.</span></blockquote></div><br></body></html>=

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