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The second like "2)" has a link to the paper:
http://www.math.rwth-aachen.de/~Timo.Hanke/AsicBoostWhitepaperrev5.pdf
which does discuss the fact that it is "patent-pending". Likewise it
discusses ASIC improvements. Avoiding patents that impact bitcoin and are
not freely licensed, is something that is worthwhile for discussion.
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> As part of the hard-fork proposed in the HK agreement(1) we'd like to
>> make the
>> patented AsicBoost optimisation useless, and hopefully make further
>> similar
>> optimizations useless as well.
>>
>>
>> You say that you want to make patented optimization useless, but you
> point to a link that doesn't say anything about ASIC improvements or
> patents, which means that you have been planning to change the protocol
> rules with some miners (but not all the community).
>
> All changes to the protocol should be discussed in public here. If you
> want to make "further similar optimizations useless as well" then maybe you
> should propose a switch to EquiHash.
>
>
>
>>
>> 1)
>> https://medium.com/@bitcoinroundtable/bitcoin-roundtable-consensus-266d475a61ff
>>
>> 2)
>> http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-April/012596.html
>>
>> --
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">The second like "2)" =
has a link to the paper:</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><a href=3D"http://=
www.math.rwth-aachen.de/~Timo.Hanke/AsicBoostWhitepaperrev5.pdf">http://www=
.math.rwth-aachen.de/~Timo.Hanke/AsicBoostWhitepaperrev5.pdf</a><div><br></=
div><div>which does discuss the fact that it is "patent-pending".=
=C2=A0 Likewise it discusses ASIC improvements.=C2=A0 Avoiding patents tha=
t impact bitcoin and are not freely licensed, is something that is worthwhi=
le for discussion.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Sergio Demian Lerner via bitco=
in-dev <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfound=
ation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>><=
/span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-l=
eft-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Tue, May 10, 2016=
at 3:57 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@l=
ists.linuxfoundation.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-lef=
t-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">As part =
of the hard-fork proposed in the HK agreement(1) we'd like to make the<=
br>
patented AsicBoost optimisation useless, and hopefully make further similar=
<br>
optimizations useless as well.<br>
<br>
<br></blockquote></span><div>You say that you want to make patented optimiz=
ation useless, but you point to a link that doesn't say anything about =
ASIC improvements or patents, which means that you have been planning to ch=
ange the protocol rules with some miners (but not all the community).=C2=A0=
</div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(2=
04,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>All c=
hanges to the protocol should be discussed in public here. If you want to m=
ake "further similar optimizations useless as well" then maybe yo=
u should propose a switch to EquiHash. <br></div><span class=3D""><div><br>=
=C2=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
1) <a href=3D"https://medium.com/@bitcoinroundtable/bitcoin-roundtable-cons=
ensus-266d475a61ff" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://medium.com=
/@bitcoinroundtable/bitcoin-roundtable-consensus-266d475a61ff</a><br>
<br>
2) <a href=3D"http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-A=
pril/012596.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.linuxfo=
undation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-April/012596.html</a><br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
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s://petertodd.org</a> 'peter'[:-1]@<a href=3D"http://petertodd.org"=
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">petertodd.org</a><br>
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