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Steven,

You make a decent point...but please try to keep the discourse civil.=20
It's already hard enough trying to figure this stuff out without fanning=
=20
more flames.

------ Original Message ------
From: "Steven Pine via bitcoin-dev"=20
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To: "Milly Bitcoin" <milly@bitcoins.info>
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Sent: 9/20/2015 1:23:28 PM
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Scaling Bitcoin conference micro-report

>It's amazing how foolish some people are to continue trusting=20
>governments especially in light of recent history: a seemingly endless,=
=20
>Orwellian 'war on terror', multiple regional conflicts often justified=20
>by fake evidence, wholesale disregard of law and basic human covenants=20
>such as do not torture, ubiquitous and secret global surveillance.
>
>Anyone who doesn't consider governments the proper threat model is=20
>either a shill or an idiot.
>
>On Sep 20, 2015 12:34 PM, "Milly Bitcoin via bitcoin-dev"=20
><bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>>Until this is settled, Bitcoin has no clear direction and developers=20
>>>cannot make effective decisions:
>>
>>How exactly do things set "settled" in this environment?
>>
>>People looking at Bitcoin think a small group of developers and miners=
=20
>>"control" these decisions.  Not sure if "control" is the right word=20
>>but that is the perception.
>>
>>Russ
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<DIV>Steven,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>You make a decent point...but please try to keep the discourse civil.=
 It's already hard enough trying to figure this stuff out without fanning=
 more flames.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>------ Original Message ------</DIV>
<DIV>From: "Steven Pine via bitcoin-dev" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@=
lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</A>&gt;</D=
IV>
<DIV>To: "Milly Bitcoin" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:milly@bitcoins.info">milly@b=
itcoins.info</A>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>Cc: <A href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-d=
ev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</A></DIV>
<DIV>Sent: 9/20/2015 1:23:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Scaling Bitcoin conference micro-report</DI=
V>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<P dir=3Dltr>It's amazing how foolish some people are to continue trusting=
 governments especially in light of recent history: a seemingly endless,=
 Orwellian 'war on terror', multiple regional conflicts often justified =
by fake evidence, wholesale disregard of law and basic human covenants such=
 as do not torture, ubiquitous and secret global surveillance.</P>
<P dir=3Dltr>Anyone who doesn't consider governments the proper threat mode=
l is either a shill or an idiot. </P>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sep 20, 2015 12:34 PM, "Milly Bitcoin via bitco=
in-dev" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoi=
n-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</A>&gt; wrote:<BR type=3D"attribution">
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<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Until this is settled, Bitcoin=
 has no clear direction and developers cannot make effective decisions:<BR>=
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>How exactly do things set "settled" in this environment?<B=
R><BR>People looking at Bitcoin think a small group of developers and miner=
s "control" these decisions.&nbsp; Not sure if "control" is the right word=
 but that is the perception.<BR><BR>Russ<BR><BR><BR>_______________________=
________________________<BR>bitcoin-dev mailing list<BR><A href=3D"mailto:b=
itcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org=
</A><BR><A href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitco=
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