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We do not want BIP64 to be incompatible with BIP32 in any way. BIP64 is
just set of some recommendations for wallet developers how to browse bip32
tree.
Modifying serialization format would break the compatibility.
However we have our solution for storing wallet birth time, which is out of
scope of BIP64, but we'll communicate it as soon as we'll write down that
idea to some more specific format.
Marek
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Tamas Blummer <tamas@bitsofproof.com>wrote:
> Pieter suggested in IRC couple of months ago to append key birth to key
> serialization in xprv....@unixtime format.
>
> What about picking this idea up in BIP64? It would greatly help the
> importing client.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tamas Blummer
> http://bitsofproof.com
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">We do not want BIP64 to be incompatible with BIP32 in any =
way. BIP64 is just set of some recommendations for wallet developers how to=
browse bip32 tree.<div><br></div><div>Modifying serialization format would=
break the compatibility.</div>
<div><br></div><div>However we have our solution for storing wallet birth t=
ime, which is out of scope of BIP64, but we'll communicate it as soon a=
s we'll write down that idea to some more specific format.</div><div>
<br></div><div>Marek </div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Tamas Blummer <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:tamas@bitsofproof.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">tamas@bitsofproof.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Pieter s=
uggested in IRC couple of months ago to append key birth to key serializati=
on in xprv….@unixtime format.<div>
<br></div><div>What about picking this idea up in BIP64? It would greatly h=
elp the importing client.</div><div class=3D""><div><div><br style=3D"text-=
indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-aut=
o;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;text-transform:no=
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xt-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;display:inline!important;font-weigh=
t:normal;float:none;line-height:normal;text-transform:none;font-size:12px;w=
hite-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px">Regards,</span><b=
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lign:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;t=
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t:normal;float:none;line-height:normal;text-transform:none;font-size:12px;w=
hite-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px"><a href=3D"http:/=
/bitsofproof.com" target=3D"_blank">http://bitsofproof.com</a></span>
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