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I really like the XBT idea.  It makes a lot of sense to match the ISO
currency symbol (though the ISO guys will have to adjust the way they've
defined the "XBT").  And I do agree that going right to uBTC and
skipping mBTC makes sense, too.

I'd prefer them not be called "micro bitcoins."  I really want to call
them "microbes" ... but I'm not sure that has the right flavor for money
transfer :)  "Please give me 872 microbes".  Perhaps we just call them
"bits."  Or even "micros" or "microbits".  As I write this, I realize
there's probably 872 threads on the forums about this already...

But we would want to promote a consistent term, to avoid further
confusion when people use different names for the new unit.  It's not
guaranteed to be successful, but if we pick a good name, and build it
into the interface on the first release pushing the new unit, we have a
chance to make the transition even easier.





On 11/14/2013 05:31 PM, Mark Friedenbach wrote:
> Whoops, this was meant for the list:
>
> Drawing on analogues from national currencies, it's also possible to
> alleviate the confusion by switching currency symbols, e.g. to XBT or
> NBC (New Bitcoin).
>
> 1 XBC == 1 uBTC
>
> On 11/14/13 2:03 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > Go straight to uBTC. Humans and existing computer systems handle
> > numbers to the left of the decimals just fine (HK Dollars, Yen).
> > The opposite is untrue (QuickBooks really does not like 3+ decimal
> > places).
>
> > - Jeff
>
> > On Nov 14, 2013 4:40 PM, "Mark Friedenbach" <mark@monetize.io
> > <mailto:mark@monetize.io>> wrote:
>
> > For this reason I'm in favor of skipping mBTC and moving straight
> > to uBTC. Having eight, or even five decimal places is not intuitive
> > to the average user. Two decimal places is becoming standard for
> > new national currencies, and we wouldn't be too far from human
> > scale everyday numbers: 25.00uBTC ~= $0.01 currently. And I don't
> > think very many people on this list would consider bitcoin
> > overvalued in the long term perspective.
>
> > Better to go through a confusing renumbering only once.
>
> > Mark
>
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    I really like the XBT idea.&nbsp; It makes a lot of sense to match the
    ISO currency symbol (though the ISO guys will have to adjust the way
    they've defined the "XBT").&nbsp; And I do agree that going right to uBTC
    and skipping mBTC makes sense, too.<br>
    <br>
    I'd prefer them not be called "micro bitcoins."&nbsp; I really want to
    call them "microbes" ... but I'm not sure that has the right flavor
    for money transfer :)&nbsp; "Please give me 872 microbes".&nbsp; Perhaps we
    just call them "bits."&nbsp; Or even "micros" or "microbits".&nbsp; As I write
    this, I realize there's probably 872 threads on the forums about
    this already...<br>
    <br>
    But we would want to promote a consistent term, to avoid further
    confusion when people use different names for the new unit.&nbsp; It's
    not guaranteed to be successful, but if we pick a good name, and
    build it into the interface on the first release pushing the new
    unit, we have a chance to make the transition even easier.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 11/14/2013 05:31 PM, Mark Friedenbach wrote:<br>
    <blockquote type="cite">Whoops, this was meant for the list:<br>
      <br>
      Drawing on analogues from national currencies, it's also possible
      to<br>
      alleviate the confusion by switching currency symbols, e.g. to XBT
      or<br>
      NBC (New Bitcoin).<br>
      <br>
      1 XBC == 1 uBTC<br>
      <br>
      On 11/14/13 2:03 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:<br>
      &gt; Go straight to uBTC. Humans and existing computer systems
      handle<br>
      &gt; numbers to the left of the decimals just fine (HK Dollars,
      Yen).<br>
      &gt; The opposite is untrue (QuickBooks really does not like 3+
      decimal<br>
      &gt; places).<br>
      <br>
      &gt; - Jeff<br>
      <br>
      &gt; On Nov 14, 2013 4:40 PM, "Mark Friedenbach"
      &lt;<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mark@monetize.io">mark@monetize.io</a> <br>
      &gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mark@monetize.io">&lt;mailto:mark@monetize.io&gt;</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
      <br>
      &gt; For this reason I'm in favor of skipping mBTC and moving
      straight<br>
      &gt; to uBTC. Having eight, or even five decimal places is not
      intuitive<br>
      &gt; to the average user. Two decimal places is becoming standard
      for<br>
      &gt; new national currencies, and we wouldn't be too far from
      human<br>
      &gt; scale everyday numbers: 25.00uBTC ~= $0.01 currently. And I
      don't<br>
      &gt; think very many people on this list would consider bitcoin<br>
      &gt; overvalued in the long term perspective.<br>
      <br>
      &gt; Better to go through a confusing renumbering only once.<br>
      <br>
      &gt; Mark<br>
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