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Re: [Bitcoin-development] alternate proposal opt-in miner takes double-spend (Re: replace-by-fee v0.10.0rc4)
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They've had their desired effect and very few +> > people are relying on unconfirmed transactions anymore. +>=20 +> You mean you wrote a bunch of FUD about zeroconf transactions while=20 +> working for companies like Coinbase and GreenAddress that were trying to= +=20 +> sell 100% centralized solutions? Lets just be clear on this. + +You lot spend so much time trying to claim I'm working for people I'm +not that I have a bad feeling I'm going to end up having to explain what +an internet troll is to "friendly" Revenue Canada tax auditor... + +> I and many other people tried your replace-by-fee tools and found out=20 +> that they worked **maybe** 1-2% of the time. You claimed 95% success=20 +> rates. + +That tool was intentionally shipped with unclear instructions and nearly +all the double-spend strategies turned off by default; you can easily +increase that number with a little understanding. + +> > As for the +> > remaining, next week alone I'll be volunteering one or two hours of my +> > consulting time to discuss solutions with a team doing person-to-person +> > trading for instance. +>=20 +> A "team" +>=20 +> You mean a **Company**? We don't need yet another 100% centralized=20 +> LocalBitcoins snooping on our transactions. + +"[Bitcoin-development] Eliminating double-spends with two-party +self-escrow for high value transactions", +Peter Todd, Apt 26th 2014, +http://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg= +05166.html + +(note that the above should be updated to use CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY) + +--=20 +'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org +000000000000000017c2f346f81e93956c538531682f5af3a95f9c94cb7a84e8 + +--VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: Digital signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- + +iQGrBAEBCACVBQJU6ficXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw +MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAxN2MyZjM0NmY4MWU5Mzk1NmM1Mzg1MzE2ODJmNWFmM2E5 +NWY5Yzk0Y2I3YTg0ZTgvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 +ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQJIFAPaXwkfti2gf7BqagAHmvy5t1Yryrcpg5OMZe +ESZgkUHXk6/9udNaRKaMSY9vwR9QVbHEp2oeEkX1Tf6VJ0GKqzJhsy8Q5k1dH3qn +32+/lqDIeQjZC5Y4uhYjL4J7sa/6gIdLnUyx4/f9OrzJ8dZlwWuMSIwirhpNpp33 +qfb+33R/XJHmx1xXjSjiPPv2Y8CYXuSmb4vk9/sGjIct5uShMwWUZyJRJiAOhvoS +AeoDSuNMzrzIt5JOf+Ama+OyXc2LcNVCVTdNQxq5B78eW9InvJsfdyWgT0YbWOvC +RZss6R18baYPdjAZNl1T4Y/koNusIGDzDCd8oKbEDK4fVWQnX8/mYk6/FyDiew== +=k1I4 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb-- + + |