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| author | Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> | 2013-03-07 13:30:35 -0500 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2013-03-07 18:30:49 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Large-blocks and censorship
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Is that right? + +Yes. + +Now, can we solve this problem robustly with clever technology, as is +done with UTXO fraud proofs? I can't see a way - can you? + +Gavin asked me to do a projection for what block sizes could be based on +technology improving, and I think that analysis should consider +carefully to what degree the current system's quite strong censorship +resistance will be impacted. + +It's interesting to be talking about censorship of transactions, right +as the support for implementing technical means to block SatoshiDice +transactions is highest. If anything, I think Gregory Maxwell's findings +he has posted on IRC showing roughly three quarters of transactions in +blocks are SatoshiDice related shows how the current large number of +validating nodes makes any effort at even discouraging unwanted traffic +quite difficult. In other words, it's a strong sign the censorship +resistance of Bitcoin works as intended. + +--=20 +'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org + +--nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: Digital signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEARECAAYFAlE43MsACgkQpEFN739thowEYwCeO7awugctLTbUPX1B2JimgY+e +Yq0AnRk2KtVuzZboE2soeUilZ6/5d/c5 +=hpLz +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- + + |