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author | Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> | 2014-03-29 07:36:58 -0700 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2014-03-29 14:37:05 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Presenting a BIP for Shamir's Secret Sharing of Bitcoin private keys
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