From: D.den Otter (neosapient@geocities.com)
Date: Wed Dec 01 1999 - 15:51:18 MST
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> From: Eliezer S. Yudkowsky <sentience@pobox.com>
> But if you get
> that far, please allow me to offer my services. I'll run you all
> through the uploading machinery, start you all up simultaneously, and
> then walk away. Please feel free to take advantage of the lemming's
> touching faith and altruism.
You wouldn't be abandoning your supergoal, so it would hardly
be a sacrifice from your pov. Real altruism involves sacrifice
IMO. But call it what you will, it doesn't matter.
> In fact, you could even upload me, then ask me to act as a judge to
> ensure that others are upgraded in synchrony, or even to do the
> upgrading, although I wouldn't be upgraded myself. Don't trust me?
> Can't see my source code? I could write an AI for you who would do the
> same thing...
You're clever enough, I presume, to hide just about anything in its
source code, so once again it would all come down to trust. But
ok, you can probably be trusted more than most people. Anyway,
if you're serious about writing a specialized AI for human uploading,
I'd be more than willing to help in any way possible. It would indeed
be an elegant compromize; you get your Singularity (and be pretty
sure that you'd be around to see how it turns out-- nice bonus) and
those who wish do do so get their shot at godhood. Like I've said
before, we need some kind of "ascension initiative". Whether it's
to save the world, to cause a Singularity or for personal gain doesn't
matter; we all need more or less the same thing, so it would be
wise to cooperate.
> Okay, so on your list of blatant technological impossibilities, ranging
> from perfect uploading developed without a testing stage,
Of course there would be a testing stage for uploading, using animals
of varying complexity. If you can upload a chimp successfully, then the
same can be done with humans. And maybe there never will be a
single uploading procedure, but rather a gradual integration of various
hardware into the body and brain until, finally, the biological parts
will have become redundant. This would presumably eliminate many
of the risks associated with the synchronized uploading approach.
> to uploading
> developed before nanotechnological weaponry,
No, a viable off-planet colony has to be developed before the
advent of "practical" nanotechnological weaponry. If nanotech
comes before transhuman AI, you'll probably need one too.
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