Re: :Weird mysterious ineffable stuff

From: Eliezer S. Yudkowsky (sentience@pobox.com)
Date: Tue Sep 21 1999 - 15:18:32 MDT


Green Sound wrote:
>
> Although the state transitions of a Turing machine are pre-determined, I think
> that it is the interaction with a quantum indeterminate world that will produce
> sentient qualities. In other words, the ineffable stuff has nothing to do with
> the machine. It has to do with quantum selection in the environment that the
> machine causes.

The necessity of environmental training for intelligence is bull. Our
brains evolved in an environment where certain kinds of information
could be stored as "invariants" of the environment, so our sensory
systems wire themselves up by reference to that information. That
information could as easily be stored in the genes directly, and if we
hadn't been able to rely on the environmental invariants - thus
obviating the necessity - we would have.

The concept of total dependence on environmental wiring, and certainly
the idea that things like self-awareness or qualia could be a product of
interaction with the environment, is simply part of the bankrupt
Standard Social Sciences Model that has been thoroughly debunked by
Tooby and Cosmides in the _The Adaptive Mind_.

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