Re: Quackery heuristics (was: DETOX)

From: Alex Future Bokov (alexboko@umich.edu)
Date: Mon Jul 26 1999 - 15:34:52 MDT


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On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:

> Of course ignoring for the moment that automated searches will
> exclude sites that contain these terms in order to ridicule them,
> and that "immortality" would block much of ExI, Alcor, and other
> such sites, that's good start on a list. You can also add anything

It would, and I reeeeeally wish they'd consider the PR ramifications of
using the I-word in their materials!

1. Who knows how many scientists are alienated from our movement because
to them *immortality* is a quack buzz word.

2. If the universe's lifespan is indeed finite, then immortality is not
possible. Ways of preventing such a death are sheer speculation on par
with time travel and FTL-- ie, interesting, but not to base RL decisions
on. More accurate is "indefinite lifespan". Much like redwoods and IBM
PS/2's.

3. The public is so ingrained with the idea of a <70 yr lifespan that
their eyes will simply glaze over when they hear the I-word, and anything
else you say will not register with them.

4. Immortality is a very loud word. It broadcasts our plans loud and clear
to all the right-wing godheads and the left-wing luddites. We don't want
the villagers kicking down Dr. Frankenstein's door before he even has a
chance to unleash his experiment!

The above is meant as constructive criticism. I'm all for ExI, when I have
the cash for a full-body contract, I'll send it to Alcor. So, don't get me
wrong here.

> that claims to "boost/support the immune system", "melt fat",
> "increase energy" or any site that supports iridology, applied
> kinesiology, ayurvedic medicine, therapeutic touch, "straight"
> chiropractic, and many other long-established frauds.

increase energy = too close to casual phrase that could be found in other
                  contexts.

chiropractic = has that been debunked? Any refs?

others = good ones; I'll add them to my search scripts

Perhaps an automated method of quack detection should give certain phrases
weighted scores instead of immediately disqualifying the document
completely. That way, a quack-rating can be generated for any document.
Perhaps using software similar to that paper-grading bot someone mentioned
on one of the lists a while ago.

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