Call for Working Group on EI list/news server

From: Robert J. Bradbury (bradbury@aeiveos.com)
Date: Sat Jun 19 1999 - 13:44:19 MDT


I've been reviewing the possible approaches to upgrading our
communication and interaction options.

It would appear that the installation of an EI/extropians news
server (similar to slashdot.org) is feasible. I am going to
undertake the setup of a test-server (perhaps einews.org,
though other suggestions should be discussed). This appears to be
a non-trivial task since it involves setting up and testing a SQL database
server as well as a host of perl scripts, so it will not happen
overnight.

Eugene has mentioned that there is a fundamental difference
in the operation of servers like /. (a pull model) and extropians@
(a push model). /. has a variant which seems to allow it to
operate in the intermediate (news/NNTP mode).

I believe that the architecture behind /. is flexible enough to
allow for some creative experimentation on our part.
(a) It should be possible through "User Settings" to incorporate
      the mail (push) option into it.
(b) Obviously some users like a news/NNTP model and this
      should be supported.
(c) The "pull" model currently supported allows for some of the
      more interesting approaches such as enhanced "scoring"
      or "sorting" of messages based on such things as size,
      # of external URL's, Known "experts" "wrote" or "read" them,
      messages with the greatest reader volume, messages authored by
      people who donated the most to EI to get their messages "advertised",
      etc.

IMHO, the real problem with the "push" model we currently have
(and the old News model) is that they lack a central database that
can contain sets of heuristics (presumably selectable by the user) that
can merge the collective intelligence or opinion of the user community.]
If you have a centralized database, you can test things like Robin's
"futures" models or simple "voting" on the worth of a message.
We don't have to resort to flame wars.

I believe that this is a non-trivial amount of work and would
like to establish a group of individuals who have expertise
in these areas that we might sub-allocate the development
of areas in which they have the greatest interest. I believe
some of the skills which might be required are (a) SQL/Perl
knowledge, (b) Mail Server/MajorDomo knowledge, (c)
Indexed databases (e.g. SWISH knowledge), (d) News
servers.

If you have experience/interest in these areas, please send me
your name, email address, area of interest, etc.

Robert Bradbury



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