From: den Otter (neosapient@geocities.com)
Date: Mon May 24 1999 - 16:30:36 MDT
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> From: Michael S. Lorrey <mike@lorrey.com>
> > Apart from that, your
> > prison system (and in fact just about all the prison systems of the
> > so-called "civilized" nations) are simply barbaric. Little better than
> > concentration camps, really.
>
>> Well, we tried going the route that european prisons are: pretty much forced
vocational education and psych treatment. Problem was, the recidivism stats showed
that it was a failure here. Here, the stats seem to bear out that if you make prison
life as unbearable as possible, a crook is far less likely to want to go back to
such an institution, so they took out the weight lifting equipment (reduces guard
costs, esp. medical bills) they are taking out the college courses, etc. except at
the minimum security resorts.<<
My basic objection against the current (Euro & US) prison systems is that:
1) They allow physical contact between inmates, which opens the
door for rape, beatings, murder and other nastiness. Ironically, the
worst, most hardened & violent criminals have the easiest time, while
the lesser offenders suffer under their regime.
2) The prison officials have way too much power, which results in
situations as described above. In other words, the prison system
is, just like the rest of the legal system btw, pretty much arbitrary.
The solution: automated prisons (afaik, Greg Burch had a great
post about this once). One inmate per cell, no physical contact
between inmates and only highly monitored contact between
guards and inmates. For good measure, every square inch of the
prison should have camera surveillance, with direct and well-protected
links to independent controlling organizations, at least some of which
should be private (non-government), lawyers and maybe even the
prisoner's relatives. All recorded data should be stored for at least
one year, to serve as evidence in the rare case of some mishap
(example: was a suicide *really* a suicide?).
Educational programs, psychiatric/medical treatments should
be optional, but simply keeping the offender out of the general
population (in the case of murderers, by means of capital
punishment) is good enough as far as I'm concerned.
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