RELIGION: Origins of Ritual?

From: Ian Goddard (igoddard@netkonnect.net)
Date: Wed Jun 24 1998 - 16:29:14 MDT


At 12:55 PM 6/24/98 -0400, Harvey Newstrom wrote:

>Can it be that the roots of religious and ritual come from a scientific
basis,
>but that those receivers of the knowledge couldn't understand it, so they
>reduced it down to religious rituals and trappings? Maybe religions and
>rituals are poor copies of some original method that was lost throughout the
>ages. As with most religions, the followers deified and extrapolated the
>original teachings, based on their limited knowledge. Eventually, such
>teachings were simply "magic" and obedience was simply "commanded by the
gods."
>
>Any comments on this theory on the origins of religion? I would also
postulate
>a similar origin for agriculture rituals looking to the stars to dictate when
>to plant, when to harvest, etc.

   IAN: How many religious rituals involve
   what would amount to hunting training?
   That seems to be the short rout to the
   answer to your question. Obviously many
   of the early cave painting are associated
   with ritual and with hunting. I believe that
   encounters with psychedelic agents in plants
   and fungi had a MAJOR role in the formation
   of almost all religions and very often was
   the central aspect of religious ritual.

   As to such ritual as that which you posit
   being "scientific" because it served a useful
   purpose, it then follows that all religion is
   scientific because it fulfills some purpose,
   in fact many purposes: social order, stability,
   fraternity, support systems, a way to rally
   the troops and control the people you want to
   control... religion is scientific mind control!
   That's very useful to those running the religion.

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