From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Wed Dec 04 2002 - 17:51:44 MST
Hubert writes
> I don't know any further names and terms to paraphrase the fascistic
> thinking of the dialog between Lee Corbin and Rafal Smigrodzki, which is
> absolute Zero, the lowest point I've experienced on the extropy list since
> 1996. Sounds like two SS men are joking around.
I'm sorry that you disagree with our views. Actually, Rafal
just wrote something that bothers me here:
###I would add the sales of pieces of the hangman's
noose, and other paraphernalia, as well as the
auctioning of the murderer's body, fresh off the
gallows, to the waiting transplant surgeons. Perhaps
this would make legal killing a financially
self-sustaining venture.
He wrote "killing" instead of executing. Have you considered
the possibility that he was being sarcastic? I am forced to.
> Don't tell me anything about freedom of thought. This is
> inhumane, insane, sadistic.
I think that "inhumane" is best left to describe actions
that harm specific individuals. I think that you should
focus on *REAL* horrors---people being murdered, raped,
maimed, and starved. Here is only a proposal for the *way*
in which funds are solicited to pay for capital punishment.
No one is *treated* any differently, no additional *REAL*
harm is done. It's all in your imagination.
> I sincerely hope neither one of them will ever have enough power,
> money and wisdom to get to any initial state of a transhuman being.
Why, you even wish me to die? Wouldn't it be enough for
me to never get power over the lives of others? (I certainly
don't think that anyone should have power over the lives of
others.) For what it is worth, I sincerely hope that you
and everyone else reading this gets as much life and advancement
as is possible.
> This level of degradation and neglect - I mean the German
> "Verwahrlosung" - is so fucking dangerous because it is
> inflaming persons who get involved in it. I already realize
> how it starts eating me up
I am sorry about that. I do wish that you were less sensitive.
I sympathize to the following extent: sometimes when I watch
TV graphic scenes can cause me to lose emotional control. I
am so revolted by what I'm seeing that I am disturbed for some
time by it. So I am very sorry that these mere words have done
that to you.
Perhaps it was Rafal's suggestion (perhaps in satire or sarcasm)
that body organs of the executed criminal be auctioned off to
those hospitals that are in most need of them. Does this raise
in you the messy images of TV medical programs that also disturb me,
and that I won't watch? Otherwise, please focus on the benefit
to people who would otherwise *die* without those organs, and
be aware that the free market will allow the most efficient
distribution of the organs.
Lee
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