From: Dehede011@aol.com
Date: Tue Oct 29 2002 - 19:53:15 MST
In a message dated 10/29/2002 5:56:10 PM Central Standard Time,
charlie@antipope.org writes: "Worker control of the means of production"
means, basically, that when the enterprise makes a profit, the workers share
in it. Nothing more, nothing less. If you worked for a dot com and had stock
options, you were participating in a socialist scheme. (With me so far?)
Yes Charlie,
I have read explanations so many times that were like yours either in
the papers or in books and it still comes down to a process that usually
starts as a con job to gain control and ends with a dictatorship. Germany,
Russia, Italy, ad infinitum ad nauseum started with the same announced goals
and ended with a dictator. Then they are immediately followed by some one
saying, "but I am much too nice to act like that. A socialist is blah, blah,
blah followed by a repeat of the previous regimes." As the French say the
more they change, the more they stay the same. No thank you. Once in a
while the citizenry manage to retain enough power to vote the rascals out.
In the meantime the singularity is approaching and we are wasting our
time listening to a guy that won't even admit the past of socialism but
instead says trust me while I redefine everything while changing nothing.
You ask us to believe that socialism goes back, back, back into antiquity but
has no history in all the places where we have seen it tried.
Ron h.
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