From: Brian D Williams (talon57@well.com)
Date: Tue Sep 17 2002 - 11:55:23 MDT
>From: "E. Shaun Russell" <e_shaun@extropy.org>
>>Brian D Williams wrote:
>>If this is all you do it's nothing more than a token gesture.
>
>>Renounce your citizenship, go ahead, lose the ultimate safety
>>net...
>Goodness, this pro-America stuff *is* getting pretty out of hand,
>isn't it?
Funny how no one but a couple of us bring up the fact that the
anti-American stuff is getting out of hand.
>Despite being Canadian, I have always loved the U.S., and thought
>of it as a superior country to that of my own. Look at the
>constitution...how can one not adore a country with such an
>amazingly logical and sincere document? The problem is that the
>constitution was written in 1776, and since then, a lot have
>changes have gone afoot, and while a lot of the meaning of the
>constitution is still deeply ingrained into American
>culture, just as much seems to have slipped by the wayside. As
>great as America still is, it is only a shadow of what it has been
>and still could be.
I'm not claiming superiority, I'm claiming it's the best for me,
and hundreds of millions of others agree.
I also agree that it's a shadow of it's former self and what it
could be.
>Comments like the above strike me as being a bizarre combination
>of naivete and hubris, with ignorance masquerading as patriotism.
>America is most certainly *not* the ultimate safety net, and an
>American citizenship is *not* the be all, end all of life.
Ultimate in the sense of giving up ones citizenship only.
I'm getting more than a little tired of being referred to as
ignorant on this list, I think I'll just save everyone the trouble.
>While I truly love America, I'm currently seeing a side of it
>that I don't at all like; just as bad, I have seen a reflection of
>this in a number of regular list posters in recent threads.
One less as soon as I send this off.
Brian
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