RE: surveillance helps the innocent.

From: Emlyn O'regan (oregan.emlyn@healthsolve.com.au)
Date: Mon Sep 09 2002 - 23:10:26 MDT


It'll support porn? It'll fly then. If anyone wants to invest, now's the
time!

In that spirit, you'll like my typo (kudos to Spike the ever vigilant);
"You'd get a usable, growing collection of pubic, open surveilance
platforms."

Seriously for a minute, are there any barriers to the technology for such a
thing? It might be a pain to set up for most people, and you need a pretty
decent net connection at the camera end to make it work. Or do you?

You'd probably want some kind of protocol at the camera end to make all
cameras look the same from the outside. Does that already exist? How are
webcams set up currently?

Emlyn

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reason [mailto:reason@exratio.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2002 13:30
> To: extropians@extropy.org
> Subject: RE: surveillance helps the innocent.
>
>
> This is a very good platform for a number of business models
> that will help
> to sustain and expand the underlying technology. For example,
> insurance or
> security companies who pay for the installation of nodes and
> cams, charge
> clients a fee, and who offer bounties on intruders or
> criminals caught by
> watchers.
>
> And porn. Of course.
>
> Reason
> http://www.exratio.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-extropians@extropy.org
> [mailto:owner-extropians@extropy.org]On
> Behalf Of Emlyn O'regan
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:12 PM
> To: 'extropians@extropy.org'
> Subject: RE: surveillance helps the innocent.
>
>
> You know, if you wanted to make this more distributed, you'd put the
> pointers (urls, ip address, something) to the cams on a P2P
> network. Could
> you shoehorn them into gnutella? I'm no expert on the current
> state of P2P
> networks.
>
> Anyway, you could then build cute front ends which use the
> P2P network as
> the database of locations. You'd get a usable, growing
> collection of pubic,
> open surveilance platforms. The more the merrier. If done
> correctly (for
> instance, duplicating the information into several existing
> P2P networks),
> it'd be really robust against central authorities /
> commercial interests /
> whatever trying to take it down. Anyone could look through it.
>
> Some years down the track, sophisticated object recognition
> techniques and
> good headup displays start making the growing network look *really*
> interesting.
>
> Emlyn
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spike66 [mailto:spike66@attbi.com]
> Sent: Monday, 9 September 2002 13:50
> To: extropians@extropy.org
> Subject: Re: surveillance helps the innocent.
>
>
> Emlyn O'regan wrote:
>
> Has anyone actually tried setting this up? A first shot might
> be to put
> together a central "index" portal, which lets you see all the
> available
> cams. People who want to set up cams would set them up on
> their own server
> resources, then register them with the central index along
> with a location
> in map grid coords (and a direction faced?) , so that anyone
> could access a
> single website, choose cams by location, and then view them
> (having been
> redirected to the owner's server). Ideally, you'd want to
> provide a zoomable
> map with locations of cameras, which could be chosen clickwise.
>
> Emlyn
> There was an article, perhaps in Scientific American or Science about
> a year ago that had a description of a networked set of webcams on
> a campus. Vague memory has it that it was MIT, but I could
> be mistaken.
> If I recall, it was web based, but there was some specialty software
> included that did something. I shoulda paid more attention to that
> article. Doubt I could even find it again now. spike
>
>
>
>
>
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