RE: surveillance helps the innocent.

From: Reason (reason@exratio.com)
Date: Mon Sep 09 2002 - 22:00:08 MDT


This is a very good platform for a number of business models that will help
to sustain and expand the underlying technology. For example, insurance or
security companies who pay for the installation of nodes and cams, charge
clients a fee, and who offer bounties on intruders or criminals caught by
watchers.

And porn. Of course.

Reason
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-extropians@extropy.org [mailto:owner-extropians@extropy.org]On
Behalf Of Emlyn O'regan
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:12 PM
To: 'extropians@extropy.org'
Subject: RE: surveillance helps the innocent.

You know, if you wanted to make this more distributed, you'd put the
pointers (urls, ip address, something) to the cams on a P2P network. Could
you shoehorn them into gnutella? I'm no expert on the current state of P2P
networks.

Anyway, you could then build cute front ends which use the P2P network as
the database of locations. You'd get a usable, growing collection of pubic,
open surveilance platforms. The more the merrier. If done correctly (for
instance, duplicating the information into several existing P2P networks),
it'd be really robust against central authorities / commercial interests /
whatever trying to take it down. Anyone could look through it.

Some years down the track, sophisticated object recognition techniques and
good headup displays start making the growing network look *really*
interesting.

Emlyn
-----Original Message-----
From: spike66 [mailto:spike66@attbi.com]
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2002 13:50
To: extropians@extropy.org
Subject: Re: surveillance helps the innocent.

Emlyn O'regan wrote:

Has anyone actually tried setting this up? A first shot might be to put
together a central "index" portal, which lets you see all the available
cams. People who want to set up cams would set them up on their own server
resources, then register them with the central index along with a location
in map grid coords (and a direction faced?) , so that anyone could access a
single website, choose cams by location, and then view them (having been
redirected to the owner's server). Ideally, you'd want to provide a zoomable
map with locations of cameras, which could be chosen clickwise.

Emlyn
There was an article, perhaps in Scientific American or Science about
a year ago that had a description of a networked set of webcams on
a campus. Vague memory has it that it was MIT, but I could be mistaken.
If I recall, it was web based, but there was some specialty software
included that did something. I shoulda paid more attention to that
article. Doubt I could even find it again now. spike

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