From: Robert J. Bradbury (bradbury@aeiveos.com)
Date: Sat Aug 31 2002 - 04:30:29 MDT
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Natasha Vita-More wrote:
[snipping lots]
> Driven by the business of human/transhuman needs. So, it boils down to
> social psychology after all.
Actually perhaps the psychology of needs (of which social is one aspect).
People individually and collectively have a very large amount of power
to restructure their needs hierarchy if they feel it is important enough.
(e.g. Ghandi)
> The market is driven by culture which is driven by social needs
Not just social -- most of us have a difficult time resisting thirst
or hunger for very long.
> - what we identify with and what we are told or advised that we should
> have or do.
Now we are getting into education (can one judge when one is being fed
a line not in ones own best interests?) and what are the societal pressures
with respect to tradeoffs in kin vs. self vs. offspring survival.
> Politics get its big hands in it and tries to sort it out and divide it
> in groups that fit its agenda. But it really is grassroots (fabroots).
Politicians are motivated by personal/societal needs as well. It is
not always grassroots -- clearly some people have greater access to
the tools of persuasion. The people ultimately have the power -- but
generally lack the means to use it effectively. [I think the case in
the Philippines and the semi-self-organizing anti-Estrada demonstrations
may be a good counter example.]
> How, when, where and why we communicate and for what end.
Yes. I think the debates in South Africa now in light of the largely
failed promises of Rio de Janeiro a decade ago are a good example of this.
Robert
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