From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Fri Aug 30 2002 - 14:24:23 MDT
On Friday, August 30, 2002, at 12:44 pm, Charles Hixson wrote:
> A) I am not saying that the Monarch butterfly isn't in any danger. I'm
> saying that it isn't the only thing in danger. And that of those in
> danger, it was selected because it was photogenic.
> B) Political plot? Sort of. PR campaign would be a better description.
> C) The scientific data that I've seen was both 1) equivocal and 2)
> focused entirely on the Monarch butterfly, ignoring the other insects,
> e.g. honey bees, wasps, earthworms, etc. So we have no idea whether
> they are endangered or not.
> D) You;re right. You don't know what a conspiracy theory is. May I
> suggest that you read "Illuminatus!" by Robert Anton Wilson for a
> humorous and fictional description of what a conspiracy is. He tries
> to be sufficiently unreasonable so that you will recognize his
> conspiracies as fictional creations.
Wow. This seems so different than what your original post seemed to
imply. You no longer seem to be saying that they deliberately distorted
the scientific facts to meet their agenda.
On Thursday, August 29, 2002, at 10:30 am, Charles Hixson wrote:
> The problem is... butterflies were picked as the species to worry about
> because they were photogenic, not because they were the one most
> endangered. There may or may not be good reasons to discourage the
> transgenic BT plants. We don't know. The news media sell what sells,
> they don't even seriously try to inform. The pop-ecologists use a
> popularized (read emotional) version of ecology. They push what it's
> politically effective to push. Ditto for the corps. Actual ecology
> pretty much gets neglected. And there may, indeed, be real dangers
> lurking here. We can't tell, and the information that we would need to
> use to make an informed decision is systematically obscured by both
> sides. They're both more interested in pushing what they want, than in
> what the facts actually say.
-- Harvey Newstrom, CISSP <www.HarveyNewstrom.com> Principal Security Consultant <www.Newstaff.com>
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