Re: Liberty vs. Utopia

From: Samantha Atkins (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Thu Aug 22 2002 - 19:54:43 MDT


Dehede011@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 8/22/2002 6:27:43 PM Central Standard Time,
> lcorbin@tsoft.com writes: I disagree. Liberalism sucks for a different
> reason. Modern liberalism doesn't care to encourage individual
> responsibility and personal freedom---it embodies the notion that the
> collective is wiser or that the leadership of the elites are necessary.
>
> Am I wrong guys -- I seem to remember that Frederick Von Hayek in his
> books traced the so called liberals of today back to a conscious decision
> amongst the socialists in the 19th century to hide behind that term? If so,
> then the only true liberal is the so called Classical Liberal. As to the
> modern liberals they are just some stripe of socialist or left winger.
> As to the cycles in history I fully expect there to always be a
> tension between those sick enough to want to dominate & wield power over
> their fellow man and those of us that don't wish to be subservient to
> government functionaries.
> Ron h.

Do we really believe that such labels as "liberal", "socialist",
"left winger" and so on are remotely sufficient to express the
multi-dimensional reality of human political thought, needs and
realities? It really gets pretty sterile when we try to reduce
everything to such a paltry set of labels.

- samantha



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