From: Forrest Bishop (forrestb@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Wed Aug 07 2002 - 11:06:25 MDT
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From: Mike Lorrey <mlorrey@yahoo.com>
To: <extropians@extropy.org>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Obedience to Law (was Penology)
> At risk of subjecting the list to a long winded
> Forrestian rant on the evils of freemasonry, the
> illuminati, the Elders of Zion, the CFR, IIS, and all
> that has transpired since the well documented masonic
> conference in the Majestic Hotel back in 1919, I ask:
> just what is your problem?
What exactically is a rant?
Would you be so kind as to review the following list of implicit claims. I would greatly appreciate it if you can provide evidence
supporting the claims numbered 1), 2), 3), and 5). If no evidence is obtained would you please retract the claim?
1) Freemasonry
I have referenced Masonic material precisely once, simply to observe their model of reality. I did not find this model useful, hence
my terse "okee doke" after quoting it in relevant part. Fyi, my dad was 33rd Degree.
Please retract the implied claim "Forrest Bishop rants about the evils of freemasonry".
2) The Illuminati
This is the first time I've even typed the word, I had to look at your spelling first.
Please retract the implied claim "Forrest Bishop rants about the Illuminati".
3) My memory is of course imperfect, but I do not recall ever writing anything at all on the Elders of Zion. Perhaps you are
referring to my friend's musical ensemble of that name, I don't think I've mentioned them in print either. If you are referring to
the *Protocols of the Elders of Zion*, I cannot recall ever commenting on it, though I may have put it in reference. The *Protocols*
is an interesting historical piece, though the authorship is obscure. The most likely explanation is anti-Jewish propaganda, it was
employed to this effect in Nazi Germany, in the US of the 1920's-30's, and currently in the Middle East. The Egyption state
television network recently aired a miniseries based on the *Protocols*, for example.
http://www.newaus.com.au/israel303zion.html
The most interesting aspect of this document from the early 20th Century is that most of the objectives listed in it have indeed
been acheived.
Does this qualify as a rant?
4) The CFR
Many of the claimed members of the CFR, past and present, are quite thoroughly "unsane" (Robert Anton Wilson's coinage), imo. Forced
labor introduced through the non-ratification of the 16th Amendment and the establishment of the world's largest counterfeiting ring
(the Federal Reserve) were simultaneously instigated by its founders, for example. Fyi, my cousin was asked to become a member, he
declined the invitation.
Does this quailify as a rant? I really can't know how others might interpret a text pattern on their computer monitors.
www.cfr.org
5) IIS
I don't even know what this is.
Please retract the implied claim "Forrest Bishop rants about the evils of the IIS".
Thank you for your consideration, and have a pleasant day.
Forrest
-- Forrest Bishop Chairman, Institute of Atomic-Scale Engineering www.iase.cc
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