From: William (williamweb@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Jun 01 2002 - 07:16:09 MDT
Olga,
I agree that feminism (in the US anyway) has fragmented.
It seems to me this is because most of the original goals of
groups like NOW (National Organization of Women) have
mostly succeeded and there is a "What do we do next?"
question being raised. This is somewhat similar to the
fragmenting in Black or "African-American" groups such as
the NAACP. - Bill.
> Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:11:05 -0700
> From: "Olga Bourlin" <fauxever@sprynet.com>
> Subject: Re: jokes (was ethnocentrism and extropianism?)
>
> From: "Lee Corbin" <lcorbin@tsoft.com>
> To: <extropians@extropy.org>
> >
> > The original form of the joke was "How many feminists
> > does it take to change a light bulb", "That's not
> > funny!".
> >
> > The joke worked because from the perspective of mainstream
> > society, the feminists seemed to be deadly serious and rather
> > over-passionate about some things (I guess), and that maybe
> > they just never could laugh at themselves (I suppose).
>
> The feminists? Which feminists? I've heard men being called feminists,
as
> well as women. There are feminists who are on the left, and on the right.
> There are feminists who want to censor certain First Amendment rights
> (mainly to do with sexually explicit materials), and those who are utterly
> opposed to censorship of any kind. There are feminists who are for gender
> equality, and there are feminists who are for retaining special privileges
> for women. There are feminists with a good sense of humor, and feminists
> who think laughter is somehow subversive. I'm for equal rights, so maybe
> I'm not a feminist? Regarding this whole feminist business there's one
> thing of which I'm certain: I'm lost.
>
> Olga
>
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