RE: ethnocentrism and extropianism?

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Sat Jun 01 2002 - 09:09:36 MDT


Spudboy100@aol.com writes

> [Eliezer wrote]
>
> <<Giving up your country doesn't have to mean that you no longer have a
> people. It can mean that the group you identify with is no longer limited
> to one country.

> There are two trans-national movements that jump to mind regarding this:
> Pan-Germanism, which was the precursor to National Socialism. Also
> Pan-Arabism, which is what the Saudi Wahabbi clerics have funded, a precursor
> to 9-11.
>
> How, I wonder, would Extropianism rate in Maslow's hierarchy of needs? How
> profound is group solidarity in this regard?

First, Extropianism has to be a very large tent in terms of
the personalities, cultural identities, (or lack thereof),
races and genders and sexual orientations (obviously),
and a huge number of other things. As is written in
the current edition of the Extropian Principles
"Extropians avoid utopian plans for "the perfect society",
instead appreciating the diversity in values, lifestyle
preferences, and approaches to solving problems."

The only things that Extropianism must be narrow about
are a number of different attitudes towards the future,
and this is a sort of definitional issue, I think.
More about that later, which is sure to be controversial.

But what you write about "group solidarity" definitely
falls in the first category: some will totally identify
with being Extropian, and others will identify with it
to the degree that they concede that their values and
Extropian values happen to coincide a lot.

Lee



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