From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@datamann.com)
Date: Sat May 11 2002 - 17:02:09 MDT
Reason wrote:
>
>
> My 2c, continuing the fine list tradition of failing to provide the actual
> information requested: get involved in an open source project. Having
> recognized open source projects on your resume considerably increases your
> credibility with tech-knowledgable hiring managers. I never hire developers
> who haven't worked on open source in their own time: it's a clear indicator
> of the difference between someone who treats it like a job, and someone who
> has initiative and demonstrably loves coding.
At this point in my life, I'm entirely sick of doing something for
nothing. That sort of altruism has gotten me into (or contributed to) my
present predicament and I'm frankly done with it. The world is gonna pay
me for my work or not get any at all. Whether I love coding or not is
not demonstrated by how much of my free time I've given away on dead end
projects that either never see the light of day or are ripped off in the
end.
>
> That and you'll get far more out of working on an open source project than
> you will out of an official course.
No, I won't. HR people have absolutely no idea what "open source"
actually is and doesn't mean diddly to them next to a certification. HR
people are generally idiots who cover their own asses and ignorance by
demanding things that shouldn't have to be.
>
> [My observations based on the last four months in the Bay Area are that good
> J2EE people are the new vermin of the industry; makes me feel bad for poking
> fun at web developers last year].
Great. I'm not in the Bay area. The fact that they are considered
'vermin' tells me that there are far more java coders than actual jobs,
if they are wasting their time on open source projects in order to build
experience because nobody will hire them.
So, despite your best attempts, you've actually told me something I
wanted to know. ;)
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