From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Fri Apr 12 2002 - 09:20:23 MDT
On Friday, April 12, 2002, at 09:44 am, Brian D Williams wrote:
> You are missing at least one major point, the Geneva convention
> does not apply here. The current Israeli war is probably the most
> humane in history.
>
> Who was murdered? We could do without the rhetoric.
I never said anyone was murdered. I am questioning Israel's claim to be
able to use deadly force, and this list's defense of killing reporters.
I am asking if it is OK to kill an unarmed reporter. You seem to say
"yes". I want to know why.
> You cannot approach a closed military zone without permission, if
> you do you can be shot.
You keep repeating this mantra without answering the question. That
doesn't answer my question of "why?" I thought we stood for no
initiation of force, especially not death, unless absolutely necessary.
Is it really so vital that reporters not cover the middle-east that we
shoot them?
Even in a war, there has to be a pretty clear and present danger before
the military is allowed to fire upon unarmed civilians. I really can't
believe I am the only one who believes this.
I guess I am going to drop this thread. I apparently am the only person
who is disturbed by the idea that we should kill reporters to keep bad
press from being reported.
> This is really just a simple case. The Israelis are at war and
> declared Arafats compound a closed military zone. Reporters decided
> to ignore the Israelis warning, acting as if they had some right to
> intrude, which they did not. The Israelis humanely chased them off
> with stun grenades and rubber bullets.
Not rubber bullets. Real bullets. I seem to be in a twilight zone
where everyone is hearing the news they want to hear. I am not
objecting to rubber bullets or dispersal. I am objecting to real
bullets being shot at unarmed civilians not involved in the conflict.
Forget it. Sometimes this list really scares me. Everyone talks a good
game about people's rights and less power to the government. But as
soon as the real world comes along, they throw out all that "useless"
theory and go back to government militias enforcing thought control over
the people under threat of death.
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