Re: Illegal evidence, was grim prospects

From: Samantha Atkins (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Fri Apr 12 2002 - 02:14:44 MDT


Phil Osborn wrote:

> What usually happens, when the thugs in blue can't
> easilly stumble across necessary evidence, is that the
> illegal means are used and then either some other
> source for the evidence is claimed or invented, or
> charges are piled on, intimidating the victim into
> copping a plea. The recent news - this past week -
> out of Texas, where hundreds of innocent Mexican
> nationals were apparently frightened into pleading to
> crimes they never committed, is really not that
> unusual. You've never experienced it? RU by any
> chance white? ... affluent?
>

In my misspent youth I was quite poor and a flower child doing a
lot of peace protests. So I saw my share of cops that really
deserved the word "pig". Enough that I still get a bit tense
around them even now that I a model high-tech nerd citizen.

> Of course, the recent Supreme Court decisions re
> search and seizure have pretty well opened the barn
> doors for every horse of police intimidation and
> terror, so that, who knows?, much of the illegal
> manufacturing of evidence may foregone as it is so
> easy to justify going through anyone's possessions now
> with a fine-tooth comb.
>

Yes. And the problem is particularly worrisom for we who have
much of our knowledge and livelihood tied up in computer
systems. Those can be and sometimes are confiscated for
examination and when they are it is *extremely* difficult to
reclaim them even when all charges are dropped (if any are
actually even made).

> I contacted a friend who is an avid Green last week.
> In fact, she was listed as one of the ten most
> dangerous people in Orange County a few years back by
> the irreverent "OC Weekly." My reason for contacting
> her was not political, but I gave her my various
> addresses, and last weekend solicitations from
> organizations like "Doctors Without Borders" showed up
> in my box at Anthony L. Hargis & Co., a free market
> trust offering accounts in gold, similar to a bank.

Aw hell, I get mail from some of these folks too. And also from
various Libertarian rags and I've been known to order very odd
books about dropping out of the system and such. I can either
be paranoid and get very weird or brave it out more or less in
the open.

- samantha



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