Re: [MURG] meets [POLITICS]

From: Robert J. Bradbury (bradbury@aeiveos.com)
Date: Sun Apr 07 2002 - 13:11:19 MDT


On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Adrian Tymes wrote:

> At which point, with Kazaa taking excessive CPU power (unless the AI
> part is rigged only to run in an @home style manner, which would make
> parts of the AI run while others did not, basically at random - and
> fixing it would slow it to the point of unusability), Kazaa users
> simply switch to something that doesn't tie up their box.

People generally don't run task manager to watch what is consuming the
CPU time. You could easily have the program monitor when someone is
sitting at the terminal and typing, or moving the mouse, then go "inactive"
for some period of time. Sure you lose some of the concurrency between
parts of the "mind" but it isn't clear precisely how much that matters.
As Eugene pointed out alot of the processing may be asynchronous or
may care nothing about what is going on in another part of the brain.
You solve the problem by timing by accumulating statistics as to when
computers are least used and run the timing critical parts during
those times. You also do what F@H does and send out multiple identical
"work units" and accept the first returned results. You can implement
system availablity and network bandwidth statistical monitors so you
can develop local clusters that are "free" at specific periods.

Also, because Kazaa is connected to a P2P network they are going to
expect some level of activity devoted to it. So long as the AI
doesn't immediately jump into "heavy use" mode and instead "gradually"
consumes greater amounts of CPU, the user will assume its due to
more users joining the net.

> Potential
> for hacking is one thing, which many people ignore; *actually doing it*
> is something else entirely.

I'd be happy to show you my server logs that still continue to accumulate
Code Red and Nimda virus assaults.

> (For instance: few people complained about
> the possibility of spam in the pre-Cantor-&-Siegel days.)

True, but spam is just a nuisance. A self-bootstrapping rogue AI may be
the end of humanity.

Robert



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