RE: Insufficient science killed Asimov

From: Richard Steven Hack (richardhack@pcmagic.net)
Date: Fri Mar 08 2002 - 10:24:56 MST


At 09:05 AM 3/8/02 -0600, you wrote:

>HIV antibody tests are remarkably accurate. False positives and false
>negatives are not rare enough to state that there is not a one-to-one
>correlation. People with HIV get AIDS. People with AIDS have HIV. People
>without HIV don't get AIDS. People without AIDS symptoms don't have HIV.
>
>Harvey Newstrom, CISSP <www.HarveyNewstrom.com>
>Principal Security Consultant <www.Newstaff.com>

Ah, I have not been following this in detail, but I believe there are some
legitimate questions about your latter assertions.

The people who question the HIV theory are saying that HIV ALONE is not the
cause of AIDS. That includes by the way the fellow who DISCOVERED the HIV
virus, if I recall my reading correctly.

"People with HIV get AIDS" - 15% do not.

"People with AIDS have HIV" - there is apparently some question whether
AIDS is an actual disease or a syndrome of other diseases, many of which
can occur due to other causes. The one specifically pursued by other
researchers is HHV 6, which can cause all of the diseases in AIDS and for
which, allegedly, hundreds of studies have been done world-wide, all of
which is ignored by the HIV researchers.

"People without HIV don't get AIDS" - see above.

"People without AIDS symptoms don't have HIV" - see above (not to mention
that this is rather obvious in the general sense.) Note however that
people with HHV 6 can have AIDS - and MOST people have HHV 6 - the question
is how are these ordinarily suppressed viruses triggered.

>One "fact" that confuses these people is that people can live so long with
>HIV before getting AIDS. This does not mean they aren't affected.

The point is statistical - apparently 15% of HIV infected persons NEVER
get AIDS. (Or at least "never" being much longer than the statistical five
year mortality.

I knew a fellow with AIDS in the joint and did some reading on it from
literature he passed to me, plus I've read articles on it in Spin Magazine
and elsewhere. There is a book out by the fellow who does medical
reporting for the ABC News web site. He has been following this topic
since the early 1980's and was responsible for convincing Peter Jennings to
cover the HHV 6 research for ABC News. He does not sound like a conspiracy
theorist (I've heard him on Art Bell).

As far as conspiracy theory goes, the whole situation sounds like a replay
of Krebiozen decades ago. I read a book on that and it sure sounded like
the stuff worked to reduce cancer deaths.

I tend to be cynical about people who are receiving billions in research
dollars being really willing to turn that spigot off with a really
effective treatment.

But, I'm not a molecular biologist or doctor either, so I'll drop this topic.

Richard Steven Hack
richardhack@pcmagic.net


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