Re: Living under water

From: Technotranscendence (neptune@mars.superlink.net)
Date: Tue Jun 26 2001 - 10:57:12 MDT


On Monday, June 25, 2001 9:39 PM Waldemar Inghdahl
waldemar.ingdahl@eudoxa.se wrote:
> I wrote once on this list that there are no white spots on the map, out of
reach for politics.
> That the only way to retreat from politics is to retreat from
civilization.
> In the history of the radical movements there are many attempts to do so,
none of them are illustrious.
> Neither the troglodytes, that literally advocated a subterranean
lifestyle, nor the group that tried to
> establish a free state on a coral reef that partially was under water
could give a satisfactory
> reply to the obvious question: what sensible person would like to live in
a cave or under water?

It's not immediately obvious that any small group would be without politics.
I don't think a retreat from civilization is necessary to get rid of
politics in the most general sense -- if that's the goal -- but a retreat
from any other person.

> For us that value the social, economical and cultural advantages of that
which the
> economist Friedrich A. Hayek called the extended order- a society with
long
> reaching division of labour, well diffused contractual relations, and
efficient
> production of wealth- a hermit's life in isolation seems unacceptable.

I appreciate that too and to these I would also add psychological needs.
Humans have needs for friendship, affection, and even approval. Economic
needs are not the only reason to live with other people. (See "Why Man
Needs Approval" by Marsha Familaro Enright in _Objectivity_ 1(2)
http://www.bomis.com/objectivity/)

Cheers!

Daniel Ust
http://uweb.superlink.net/neptune/



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