From: Doug Jones (random@qnet.com)
Date: Mon Mar 13 2000 - 10:56:46 MST
"Robert J. Bradbury" wrote:
>
> **** Byegones for the delayed response and/or if previously posted ****
>
> On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 dalec@socrates.berkeley.edu wrote:
>
> > Well, *this* particular left-transhumanist would prefer to be an aristo
> > over a borganism any day, thankyouverymuch. The designation I have always
> > used in the past to describe the odd few lefties in this memespace -- very
> > much with tongue in cheek -- is "leftropian".
> > Leftropians of the world, fan out!
> >
>
> I was going to stay out of this discussion but it is going from bad
> to worse -- now I can't even read it. It would appear this entire
> area is pointing out some shortcomings in my American education.
> I can probably speak three or four different machine languages,
> but this politico-speak, even when I understand the roots (such as
> "extropy" and "Borg") is like someone throwing seeds onto rocks in
> the desert. Even if I water them, they still don't grow.
>
> Is there a document someplace that relates some fairly well understood
> philosophies (democrat/republican/socialist/communist/libertarian) into their
> extro-speak equivalents (left-transhumanist/leftropians/extropic/borganist)?
>
Splitting the political spectrum into more than one dimension seems to
help- see http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html for a basic version of the
concept. That site is obviously biased toward a libertarian agenda
(fine by me but a bit blatant for my tastes). I think that someone (not
me!) should look into adding a third or maybe even a fourth (useful)
dimension that would better separate the political stances of various
politicians and parties.
Borganists would tend to be at the far end of the 2D plot from
libertarians, with the whole slew of "traditional" political groups
scattered in between, with various degrees of overlap.
http://www.self-gov.org/presres.shtml shows and interesting scatter plot
of the major candidates which puts the idea in perspective.
-- Doug Jones Rocket Plumber, XCOR Aerospace http://www.xcor-aerospace.com
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