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Dear friends,

Some of the smartest people I know discuss things at C2. I find it fascinating that even there people are arguing "You're investing all wrong"; "No, you're the one investing all wrong". C2 is really intended for talking about computer programming, but a couple of investment topics have snuck in: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?BuyLowSellHigh http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?BuyAndHold

I have played a game called "Futures exchange". Fun and free. I think it helped me understand options better. http://www.worldwidewiki.net/wiki/FutureExchangeInvesting

If you want to discuss particular stocks and companies, you might find the discussion forums at http://stockepedia.com/ and http://corpknowpedia.org/ useful.

A little stock market humor: http://www.reverendfun.com/index.php?date=19980828

-- David Cary

particular stocks

"stocks"

some stocks I'm interested in.

• GE: General Electric
• HD
• QQQ Nasdaq-100 Trust 1 (QQQ)
• APX
• HON: Honeywell
• JNJ: Johnson and Johnson
• F: Ford
• MO
• DAL: Delta Airlines

(see http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=charting&mode=basics&comparison=on&symbol=QQQ%60&symbol=GE%60&symbol=HD%60&symbol=APX%60&symbol=HON%60&symbol=JNJ%60&symbol=F%60&symbol=MO%60&symbol=DAL%60 ... http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?mode=basics&kind=&timeframe=&intraday=&charttype=&splits=&earnings=&movingaverage=&lowerstudy=&comparison=&index=&symbol=AAPL&FormType=&mkttype=&pathname=&page=charting&selected=AAPL )

(see http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=c&c=GE&t=1y&s=rhat&l=on&z=m&q=l )

// chip designers
TMTA Transmeta http://transmeta.com/
AAPL Apple
NSM National Semiconductor Corporation (NYS)

// chip users
PLMO palmOne, Inc. (NASDAQ:PLMO) (formerly the hardware division of Palm, Inc.)

// software
RHAT  Red Hat (RHAT)  http://www.redhat.com/
PALM Palm, Inc. (NASDAQ:PALM) (the PalmOS software division)

MDKFF MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/newsletter


// other stuff
F  FORD MOTOR CO (NYS)

funds

• OASCX Oppenheimer Balanced Fund Class C
• FADCX Fidelity Advisor Series VIII, Fidelity Advisor Diversified Intl Fd Cl C MUTUAL
• DGAGX Dreyfus Appreciation, Dreyfus Group
• HRVIX Heart Value Plus, Heartland funds

[FIXME: search for NASDAQ on local web pages]

local.html

[FIXME: move local.html#interesting_companies here ???]

investment links

Stock market, ... financial ...

related local pages:

• periodical.html information about the near past that may be helpful in choosing an investment.
• future_history.html for information about the future that may be helpful in choosing an investment.
• link_farm.html#interesting_companies
• All too often, people make the wrong decision because of "FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt)" learning.html#fud
• #business_considerations for Notes to myself if I ever start a business.
• big money bignums.html#money

books:

• Linda Fullerton recommended these books to DAV on 2002-08-28, in this order:
  1. _Rich Dad, Poor Dad_ by Robert Kiyosaki
  2. _Cash Flow Quadrant_ by Robert Kiyosaki
  3. _Rich Dad's guide to investing_ by Robert Kiyosaki
  4. _Rich Kid, Smart Kid_ by Robert Kiyosaki
  5. _Retire Young, Retire Rich_ by Robert Kiyosaki ($15 at Staples)

web sites: [FIXME: make separate section and comb out sites that *graph* past stock value trends ]

• The Motley Fool http://www.fool.com/ "The Motley Fool exists to educate, amuse, and enrich the individual investor; to prove to you that the best person to manage your money is YOU; to propose that key to investment success is doing one's homework; and to show that 'homework' can be fun."

  articles DAV thought were especially good:

  • The 13 Steps to Investing Foolishly http://www.fool.com/school/13steps/13steps.htm
• Biblical stock market humor http://rev-fun.gospelcom.net/index.php?date=19980828
• How you spend your time is more important than how you spend your money. Money mistakes can be corrected, but time is gone forever. - David B. Norris

CD rates CD rate information

• http://www.banx.com/tulsa/ lists many banks and CU and the current CD rates for each one.
• http://www.wecuweb.org/ | http://www.wecuweb.org/prodserv/rates.html
• http://www.bankone.com/
• http://www.comfedcu.org/
• http://etradebank.com/

stock market information

• Stockepedia, the Encyclopedia of Stocks. http://stockepedia.com/index.php/Main_Page [FIXME: periodical]
• CorpKnowPedia, tracking the corporate landscape. http://professorbikeybike.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
• for students attending Wade Cook's Seminars or graduates of his workshops to communicate about their experiences and strategies. http://www.cooktraders.com/
• http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?BuyLowSellHigh
• free source of commodity futures trading news and research ... Thousands of Pages of Free Trading & financial content on all aspects of Commodities, Stock Market & Options Trading http://www.webtrading.com/
• The 3 biggest stock exchanges in the U.S. are (highest volume on top)
  • The NASDAQ Stock Market http://www.nasdaq.com/ is also in New York NY (some offices in New Jersey)
  • NYSE, the New York Stock Exchange http://www.nyse.com/ is, of course, in New York NY
  • the American Stock Exchange http://www.amex.com/ "the American Stock Exchange now trades Nasdaq stocks" is also in New York NY
  • [FIXME: what are QQQ, XAX, and DAX ?]
• New York Mercantile Exchange http://www.nymex.com/ "The New York Mercantile Exchange is ... the largest physical commodity exchange in the world"
• Hmm, I wonder if ``Linear prediction'' works with stock prices http://kbs.cs.tu-berlin.de/~jutta/toast.html
• Theory of universal learning machines http://www.idsia.ch/~juergen/unilearn.html

  Physicists and economists other inductive scientists make predictions based on observations. So does everybody in daily life.

  Did you know that there is a theoretically optimal way of predicting? I believe every scientist should know about it.

  ...

  Alternatively, reduce M to what you get if you just add up weighted estimated future finance data probabilities generated by 1000 commercial stock-market prediction software packages. If only one of them happens to work fine (but you do not know which) you still should get rich.

• CNN/Money http://money.cnn.com/ /* was CNNfn: the financial network http://cnnfn.com/ */
• http://americanexpress.com/trade
• http://www.euronext.com/trader/summarizedmarket/0,4772,1732_6834,00.html?displayType=SUMMARIZED_MARKET&idInstrument=22099&chartSet=summarized_historical&instrumentType=1 (has graphs)
• APMoneyWIRE from the Associated Press http://apmoneywire.ap.org/
• Some GPL Financial Software http://www.panteltje.demon.nl/financial/ [FIXME: check it out]
• http://worldwidewiki.net/wiki/TradingPlaces ???
• ??? Nasdaq stock market information ??? http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=111133&p=irol-stockInfo
• "the Data Music Project is for musical artists, composers and programmers who want create music from data of all kinds. ... [such as] stock market data" http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DataMusicProject
• "Speculative Bubbles" by Jacob Freifeld http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/bubble.html
• BanxQuote http://www.banx.com/tulsa/ ???
• http://www.finwin.com/finwin/home/v2index.cfm?id=376 some stock market data
• Why Are Stocks Worth Anything? article by Tamim Ansary http://encarta.msn.com/column/whyarestocksworthanything.asp fascinating history of the stock market. Some funny bits.

  Will Rogers has summarized all the best advice in three sentences which I present to you herewith, free of charge: "Don't gamble," said Rogers. "Take all your savings and buy some good stock and hold it till it goes up, then sell it. If it don't go up, don't buy it."

• "Five Fallacies of the Purposes of Money" article by Os Hillman http://www.nehemiah-partners.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6 quotes James warning against hoarding and other scriptures.

  "Top 10 Biblical Principles For Success In Life And Work" article by Os Hillman http://www.nehemiah-partners.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=22 principle #6: Embrace times of adversity as opportunities to grow in wisdom, character and obedience. principle #10: Seek god for strategies for success in your work life.

• http://www.rollingstock100.com/ a site that has some general information and a list of 100 or so rolling stocks... cost $20 per year but has a free 15 day trial period. -- Sam Williams
• http://stocksquest.thinkquest.org/10326/test/cgi-bin/front.html Global Stock Game - Gives you $100,000 to start paper trading with. Acts like a brokerage webpage. ... keeps in sync with the market and helps you learn about the market through simulation. -- Sam Williams
• "Adding Zero to E wave theory. ... The Elliott Wave principle was discovered in the late 1920s by Ralph Nelson Elliott" http://www.gennaker.com/Zerowave.htm makes a good point that stock prices go up and down in a fractal pattern (vs. other people who try to see it as a "noisy sine wave" or "noisy linear trend"). I'm not sure that the (deterministic) fractal pattern explained here is the best model, though.
• http://investors.com/
• Cheat Sheet for Stock Market Reporters (From: Stan Tamulevich stantam at itis.com.)
  • Helium was up, feathers were down. Paper was stationary.
  • Fluorescent tubing was dimmed in light trading.
  • Knives were up sharply.
  • Cows steered into a bull market.
  • Pencils lost a few points.
  • Hiking equipment was trailing.
  • Elevators rose, while escalators continued their slow decline.
  • Weights were up in heavy trading.
  • Light switches were off.
  • Mining equipment hit rock bottom.
  • Diapers remained unchanged.
  • Shipping lines stayed at an even keel.
  • The market for raisins dried up.
  • Coca Cola fizzled.
  • Caterpillar stock inched up a bit.
  • Sun peaked at midday.
  • Balloon prices were inflated.
  • Scott Tissue touched a new bottom.
  • Batteries exploded in an attempt to recharge the market.
  http://repairfaq.cis.upenn.edu/sam/humor.htm#hum079 [humor]
• http://direct.dogpile.com/d/search/p/dogpile/?c=directory&s=financial+advice&topic=Top%2fHome%2fPersonal_Finance&Partner=infospace_dogpile_dir ??? points to "Money Matters" and other Personal Finance websites.
• http://www.ihatefinancialplanning.com/ ???
• nanotechnology companies nanotech.html#company and http://www.nanoindustries.com/stocks.html
• http://www.itools.com/ stock quotes, package tracking, internet search tools, ...
• http://www.quote.com/layout/index.frames.html?/index.html NASDAQ and other stock market quotes.
• [stock and financial information] http://finance.yahoo.com/
• free stock market simulation http://www.sandbox.net/finalbell/
• the Chicago Board of Trade http://www.cbot.com/ stock prices
• http://quicken.excite.com/investments/quotes/?symbol=YUM
• The annotated SCO stock price chart http://lwn.net/Articles/75129/ also has comments on tools to use for charting stock information
• Stock Point http://www.stockpoint.com ???
• http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/ lots of stock market investment charting info.
• http://foxnews.com/nav/stage_business_quotes.sml
• Linux Stocks /* was http://lwn.net/stocks/ */ /* was http://old.lwn.net/stocks/ */
• http://quote.yahoo.com/
• http://www.cboe.com/
• www.stockmaster.com
• Infrastructure http://www.infras.com/ "devoted to providing investment and market information about companies in the Semiconductor, Semiconductor Equipment and Flat Panel Display Industries." ???
• [investing] http://www.itrac.com/
• http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/investor/ [FIXME: move to #interesting company]
• http://shareholder.com/ ???
• _The Great 401(K) Hoax: Why Your Family's Financial Security Is At Risk, And What You Can Do About It_ book by William Wolman and Anne Colamosca http://www.perseuspublishing.com/focus5.asp?ISBN1=0738206350 (Is this true ?)
• http://slack.lne.com/lemay/other/ recommends a couple of stock market sites
• free stock information http://www.freewebcentral.com/stocks.htm
• http://www.devotedinvestor.com/ ???
• Bernie Schaeffer http://www.SchaeffersResearch.com/ ???
• http://quicken.com/ has stock market quotes and research information
• http://dynamic.nasdaq.com/dynamic/nasdaq100_activity.stm pretty graph
• Intel (NASDAQ: INTC) http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=INTC

  Intel option listings: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=INTC

• [cool companies ?][... Krautter medical device ? ...] Personal Electronic Devices, Inc. http://www.pedinc.com/ "PED Inc. creates personal interactive wirelessly networked sensors and systems. ... "
• My disappointing experience as a day trader http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1408594
• MIPS Technologies, Inc. (Nasdaq: MIPS, MIPSB)
• Hewlett-Packard Co (NYSE: HPQ) http://www.forbes.com/finance/mktguideapps/compinfo/CompanyTearsheet.jhtml?tkr=HPQ
• Internat Business Machines (NYSE: IBM) http://www.forbes.com/finance/mktguideapps/compinfo/CompanyTearsheet.jhtml?tkr=IBM
• Red Hat, Inc (NASD: RHAT) http://www.forbes.com/finance/mktguideapps/compinfo/CompanyTearsheet.jhtml?tkr=RHAT
• Genentech, Inc. (NYSE: DNA)
• Deuteronomy 15 At the end of [every] seven years thou shalt make a release. And this [is] the manner of the release: Every creditor that lendeth [ought] unto his neighbour shall release [it]; he shall not exact [it] of his neighbour, or of his brother; because it is called the LORD'S release. Of a foreigner thou mayest exact [it again]: but [that] which is thine with thy brother thine hand shall release; Save when there shall be no poor among you; for the LORD shall greatly bless thee in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee [for] an inheritance to possess it: Only if thou carefully hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all these commandments which I command thee this day. For the LORD thy God blesseth thee, as he promised thee: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow; and thou shalt reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee. If there be among you a poor man of one of thy brethren within any of thy gates in thy land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not harden thine heart, nor shut thine hand from thy poor brother: But thou shalt open thine hand wide unto him, and shalt surely lend him sufficient for his need, [in that] which he wanteth. Beware that there be not a thought in thy wicked heart, saying, The seventh year, the year of release, is at hand; and thine eye be evil against thy poor brother, and thou givest him nought; and he cry unto the LORD against thee, and it be sin unto thee. Thou shalt surely give him, and thine heart shall not be grieved when thou givest unto him: because that for this thing the LORD thy God shall bless thee in all thy works, and in all that thou puttest thine hand unto. For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.

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