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Doesn't mean you should build something that says "fuck you" to the compani=
es that have invested in farms of ASICS. To say "Oh yea if they can't mine =
it how we want stuff 'em" is naive. I get decentralisation=2C but don't dis=
incentivise mining. If miners are telling you that you're going to hurt th=
em=2C esp. Miners that combined hold > 50% hashing power=2C why would you s=
ay too bad so sad? Why not just start stripping bitcoin out of adopters wal=
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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: Block Size Increase Requirements
Whilst it would be nice if miners in *outside* China can carry on forever
regardless of their internet situation=2C nobody has any inherent "right" t=
o
mine if they can't do the job - if miners in *outside* China can't get the
trivial amounts of bandwidth required through their firewall *TO THE
MAJORITY OF THE HASHRATE* and end up being outcompeted then OK=2C too bad=
=2C
we'll have to carry on without them.
On Mon=2C Jun 1=2C 2015 at 12:13 AM=2C Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrote:
> Whilst it would be nice if miners in China can carry on forever regardles=
s
> of their internet situation=2C nobody has any inherent "right" to mine if
> they can't do the job - if miners in China can't get the trivial amounts =
of
> bandwidth required through their firewall and end up being outcompeted th=
en
> OK=2C too bad=2C we'll have to carry on without them.
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> But I'm not sure why it should be a big deal. They can always run a node
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n't mean you should build something that says "=3Bfuck you"=3B to t=
he companies that have invested in farms of ASICS. To say "=3BOh yea if=
they can't mine it how we want stuff 'em"=3B is naive. I get decentral=
isation=2C
but don't dis incentivise mining. If miners are telling you that you're go=
ing to hurt them=2C esp. Miners that combined hold >=3B 50% hashing power=
=2C why would you say too bad so sad? Why not just start stripping bitcoin =
out of adopters wallets? Same thing.</div>
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<blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px=3B border:none=3B padding:0px">Whils=
t it would be nice if miners
<strike>in</strike> <b>outside</b> China can carry on forever regardless of=
their internet situation=2C nobody has any inherent "=3Bright"=3B =
to mine if they can't do the job - if miners
<strike>in</strike> =3B<b>outside</b> China can't get the trivial amoun=
ts of bandwidth required
<strike>through their firewall</strike> <b>TO THE MAJORITY OF THE HASHRATE<=
/b> and end up being outcompeted then OK=2C too bad=2C we'll have to carry =
on without them.<br>
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<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">On Mon=2C Jun 1=2C 2015 at 12:13 AM=2C Mike He=
arn <span dir=3D"ltr">
<=3B<a href=3D"mailto:mike@plan99.net" target=3D"_blank">mike@plan99.net<=
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<div class=3D"x_gmail_extra">Whilst it would be nice if miners in China can=
carry on forever regardless of their internet situation=2C nobody has any =
inherent "=3Bright"=3B to mine if they can't do the job - if miners=
in China can't get the trivial amounts of bandwidth
required through their firewall and end up being outcompeted then OK=2C to=
o bad=2C we'll have to carry on without them.</div>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_extra"><br>
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<div class=3D"x_gmail_extra">But I'm not sure why it should be a big deal. =
They can always run a node on a server in Taiwan and connect the hardware t=
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