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> On Jul 23, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
>=20
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com =
<mailto:elombrozo@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Mainstream usage of cryptocurrency will be enabled primarily by direct =
party-to-party contract negotiation=E2=80=A6with the use of the =
blockchain primarily as a dispute resolution mechanism. The block size =
isn=E2=80=99t about scaling but about supply and demand of finite =
resources. As demand for block space increases, we can address it either =
by increasing computational resources (block size) or by increasing =
fees. But to do the former we need a way to offset the increase in cost =
by making sure that those who contribute said resources have incentive =
to do so.
>=20
> There are so many things wrong with this paragraph I just can't let it =
slide.
>=20
> "Mainstream usage will be enabled primarily by..."  Maybe. Maybe not, =
we don't know what use case(s) will primarily take cryptocurrency =
mainstream. I believe it is a big mistake to pick one and bet "THIS is =
going to be the winner".
>=20
> "we can address it either by... or..."  False dichotomy. There are =
lots of things we can do to decrease costs, and a lot of things have =
ALREADY been done (e.g. running a pruned full node).  I HATE the "it =
must be this or that" "us or them" attitude, it fosters unproductive =
bickering and negativity.
>=20
> (and yes, I'm human, I'm sure you can find instances in the recent =
past where I did it, too... mea culpa)
>=20
> --
> --
> Gavin Andresen
>=20

Regarding rhetoric, fair enough, Gavin - I=E2=80=99m human and I could =
be wrong. It is my educated best guess, a conclusion I=E2=80=99ve drawn =
given my understanding of computer science, economics, and what=E2=80=99s =
been happening in this space.

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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jul 23, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Gavin Andresen &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:gavinandresen@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">gavinandresen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Eric Lombrozo =
<span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:elombrozo@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">elombrozo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Mainstream usage =
of cryptocurrency will be enabled primarily by direct party-to-party =
contract negotiation=E2=80=A6with the use of the blockchain primarily as =
a dispute resolution mechanism. The block size isn=E2=80=99t about =
scaling but about supply and demand of finite resources. As demand for =
block space increases, we can address it either by increasing =
computational resources (block size) or by increasing fees. But to do =
the former we need a way to offset the increase in cost by making sure =
that those who contribute said resources have incentive to do =
so.</blockquote></div><br class=3D"">There are so many things wrong with =
this paragraph I just can't let it slide.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra">"Mainstream usage will be enabled primarily by..." =
&nbsp;Maybe. Maybe not, we don't know what use case(s) will primarily =
take cryptocurrency mainstream. I believe it is a big mistake to pick =
one and bet "THIS is going to be the winner".</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">"we =
can address it either by... or..." &nbsp;False dichotomy. There are lots =
of things we can do to decrease costs, and a lot of things have ALREADY =
been done (e.g. running a pruned full node).&nbsp; I HATE the "it must =
be this or that" "us or them" attitude, it fosters unproductive =
bickering and negativity.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">(and yes, I'm human, I'm =
sure you can find instances in the recent past where I did it, too... =
mea culpa)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra">-- <br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_signature">--<br class=3D"">Gavin Andresen<br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><br class=3D""></div>
</div></div>
</div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">Regarding =
rhetoric, fair enough, Gavin - I=E2=80=99m human and I could be wrong. =
It is my educated best guess, a conclusion I=E2=80=99ve drawn given my =
understanding of computer science, economics, and what=E2=80=99s been =
happening in this space.</div></body></html>=

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