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On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:39:57AM +0000, Rama Gan wrote:
> 
> About a header, the problem is that the fast 2-of-M algorithm won't preserve
> constant values across shares as Codex32 does.
>

Are you sure? It seems that if two shares have the same value in a given
position, the line through them should be constant, meaning that every
other share will have the same constant value.

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