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Ahh, data... a breath of fresh air...

Can you re-analyze for 8MB blocks?  There is no current proposal for 20MB
blocks.

Also, most hashing power is now using Matt Corallo's fast block propagation
network; slow 'block' propagation to merchants/end-users doesn't really
matter (as long as it doesn't get anywhere near the 10-minute block time).

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:19 AM, slurms--- via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> On this day, the Bitcoin network was crawled and reachable nodes surveyed
> to find their maximum throughput in order to determine if it can safely
> support a faster block rate. Specifically this is an attempt to prove or
> disprove the common statement that 1MB blocks were only suitable slower
> internet connections in 2009 when Bitcoin launched, and that connection
> speeds have improved to the point of obviously supporting larger blocks.
>
>
> The testing methodology is as follows:
>
>  * Nodes were randomly selected from a peers.dat, 5% of the reachable
> nodes in the network were contacted.
>
>  * A random selection of blocks was downloaded from each peer.
>
>  * There is some bias towards higher connection speeds, very slow
> connections (<30KB/s) timed out in order to run the test at a reasonable
> rate.
>
>  * The connecting node was in Amsterdam with a 1GB NIC.
>
>
> Results:
>
>  * 37% of connected nodes failed to upload blocks faster than 1MB/s.
>
>  * 16% of connected nodes uploaded blocks faster than 10MB/s.
>
>  * Raw data, one line per connected node, kilobytes per second
> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6b4NuiVQ
>
>
> This does not support the theory that the network has the available
> bandwidth for increased block sizes, as in its current state 37% of nodes
> would fail to upload a 20MB block to a single peer in under 20 seconds
> (referencing a number quoted by Gavin). If the bar for suitability is
> placed at taking only 1% of the block time (6 seconds) to upload one block
> to one peer, then 69% of the network fails for 20MB blocks. For comparison,
> only 10% fail this metric for 1MB blocks.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ahh, data... a breath of fresh air...<div><br></div><div>C=
an you re-analyze for 8MB blocks?=C2=A0 There is no current proposal for 20=
MB blocks.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, most hashing power is now using M=
att Corallo&#39;s fast block propagation network; slow &#39;block&#39; prop=
agation to merchants/end-users doesn&#39;t really matter (as long as it doe=
sn&#39;t get anywhere near the 10-minute block time).</div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:=
19 AM, slurms--- via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bi=
tcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.li=
nuxfoundation.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">O=
n this day, the Bitcoin network was crawled and reachable nodes surveyed to=
 find their maximum throughput in order to determine if it can safely suppo=
rt a faster block rate. Specifically this is an attempt to prove or disprov=
e the common statement that 1MB blocks were only suitable slower internet c=
onnections in 2009 when Bitcoin launched, and that connection speeds have i=
mproved to the point of obviously supporting larger blocks.<br>
<br>
<br>
The testing methodology is as follows:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0* Nodes were randomly selected from a peers.dat, 5% of the reachable =
nodes in the network were contacted.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0* A random selection of blocks was downloaded from each peer.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0* There is some bias towards higher connection speeds, very slow conn=
ections (&lt;30KB/s) timed out in order to run the test at a reasonable rat=
e.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0* The connecting node was in Amsterdam with a 1GB NIC.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0<br>
Results:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0* 37% of connected nodes failed to upload blocks faster than 1MB/s.<b=
r>
<br>
=C2=A0* 16% of connected nodes uploaded blocks faster than 10MB/s.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0* Raw data, one line per connected node, kilobytes per second <a href=
=3D"http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3D6b4NuiVQ" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3D6b4NuiVQ</a><br>
<br>
<br>
This does not support the theory that the network has the available bandwid=
th for increased block sizes, as in its current state 37% of nodes would fa=
il to upload a 20MB block to a single peer in under 20 seconds (referencing=
 a number quoted by Gavin). If the bar for suitability is placed at taking =
only 1% of the block time (6 seconds) to upload one block to one peer, then=
 69% of the network fails for 20MB blocks. For comparison, only 10% fail th=
is metric for 1MB blocks.<br>
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rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail=
man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=
=3D"gmail_signature">--<br>Gavin Andresen<br></div>
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