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His account on that website was also compromised.
2015-08-17 21:02 GMT+02:00 Anon Moto via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>:
> Satoshi,
>
> As much as I want to believe this is you it's very difficult to ignore the
> fact that Vistomail could have been hacked and I'm currently speaking to a
> troll.
> Can you copy and paste what you wrote above, to
> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com as well, like how you did during the Dorian
> fiasco?
>
>
> Much appreciated.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Satoshi Nakamoto via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing
>> list. I had hoped the debate would resolve and that a fork proposal would
>> achieve widespread consensus. However with the formal release of Bitcoin
>> XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my
>> concerns about this very dangerous fork.
>>
>> The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my
>> original vision, but nothing could be further from the truth. When I
>> designed Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future
>> modifications to the consensus rules difficult without near unanimous
>> agreement. Bitcoin was designed to be protected from the influence of
>> charismatic leaders, even if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or
>> Satoshi Nakamoto. Nearly everyone has to agree on a change, and they have
>> to do it without being forced or pressured into it. By doing a fork in
>> this way, these developers are violating the "original vision" they claim
>> to honour.
>>
>> They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed
>> to be. However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and
>> new knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions.
>> For example I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the
>> security of the network. Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system
>> while also preserving its security properties is not a trivial problem, and
>> we should take more time to come up with a robust solution. I suspect we
>> need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on
>> altruism.
>>
>> If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what
>> "Bitcoin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through the
>> use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin
>> a failed project. Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and socially
>> robust. This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.
>>
>> Satoshi Nakamoto
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">His account on that website was also compromised.</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2015-08-17 21:02 GMT=
+02:00 Anon Moto via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bi=
tcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.li=
nuxfoundation.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Satoshi, <br><br></div>As much as I want to believ=
e this is you it's very difficult to ignore the fact that Vistomail cou=
ld have been hacked and I'm currently speaking to a troll. <br></div>Ca=
n you copy and paste what you wrote above, to <a href=3D"http://p2pfoundati=
on.ning.com" target=3D"_blank">http://p2pfoundation.ning.com</a> as well, l=
ike how you did during the Dorian fiasco? <br></div><div><br></div><div><br=
></div>Much appreciated. <br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Satoshi Nakamoto vi=
a bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.lin=
uxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</=
a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have been followin=
g the recent block size debates through the mailing list.=C2=A0 I had hoped=
the debate would resolve and that a fork proposal would achieve widespread=
consensus.=C2=A0 However with the formal release of Bitcoin XT 0.11A, this=
looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my concerns about th=
is very dangerous fork.<br>
<br>
The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original =
vision, but nothing could be further from the truth.=C2=A0 When I designed =
Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the=
consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement.=C2=A0 Bitcoin =
was designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, eve=
n if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satoshi Nakamoto.=C2=A0=
Nearly everyone has to agree on a change, and they have to do it without b=
eing forced or pressured into it.=C2=A0 By doing a fork in this way, these =
developers are violating the "original vision" they claim to hono=
ur.<br>
<br>
They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to =
be.=C2=A0 However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and=
new knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions.=
=C2=A0 For example I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on=
the security of the network.=C2=A0 Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary s=
ystem while also preserving its security properties is not a trivial proble=
m, and we should take more time to come up with a robust solution.=C2=A0 I =
suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relyin=
g solely on altruism.<br>
<br>
If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what "Bit=
coin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through th=
e use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoi=
n a failed project.=C2=A0 Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and soci=
ally robust.=C2=A0 This present situation has been very disappointing to wa=
tch unfold.<br>
<br>
Satoshi Nakamoto<br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br></div>
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linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
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