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And this is how the powers that be compromise bitcoin. They can't stop
TCP/IP, but they sure can take over the development team. It's a good thing
that no one from the CIA has had any conversations with anyone from the
bitcoin development team. Phew...
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Am 18.08.2015 um 11:15 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.:
> > I honestly don't understand your position, but I get the sense that you
> > are suggesting Satoshi wouldn't be welcome to return if he wanted to be
> > active in development again?
>
> Who am I? Personally I have zero objection if the creator steps in. I
> think he would be highly welcome by the most people. At first I had the
> impression that the email was a fake, but maybe I was wrong. At the
> moment I think: Maybe it's even the best if we do not know exactly
> whether it was Satoshi or not.
>
> Unanimity is mission critical for Bitcoin and must be an absolute
> priority. If not the vast majority is in favor for a fork, then the fork
> should be avoided until a consensus is found. Even if it takes until the
> cows come home.
>
> But it is very likely now that it will come to a fork. No matter which
> site will win, this will produce a lot of humiliated people at the end.
> That's not good and leads to bitterness on both sites.
>
> - oliver
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">And this is how the powers that be compromise bitcoin. The=
y can't stop TCP/IP, but they sure can take over the development team. =
It's a good thing that no one from the CIA has had any conversations wi=
th anyone from the bitcoin development team. Phew...<br><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11=
:57 AM, Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@l=
ists.linuxfoundation.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex"><span class=3D"">Am 18.08.2015 um 11:15 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.:<br=
>
> I honestly don't understand your position, but I get the sense tha=
t you<br>
> are suggesting Satoshi wouldn't be welcome to return if he wanted =
to be<br>
> active in development again?<br>
<br>
</span>Who am I? Personally I have zero objection if the creator steps in. =
I<br>
think he would be highly welcome by the most people. At first I had the<br>
impression that the email was a fake, but maybe I was wrong. At the<br>
moment I think: Maybe it's even the best if we do not know exactly<br>
whether it was Satoshi or not.<br>
<br>
Unanimity is mission critical for Bitcoin and must be an absolute<br>
priority. If not the vast majority is in favor for a fork, then the fork<br=
>
should be avoided until a consensus is found. Even if it takes until the<br=
>
cows come home.<br>
<br>
But it is very likely now that it will come to a fork. No matter which<br>
site will win, this will produce a lot of humiliated people at the end.<br>
That's not good and leads to bitterness on both sites.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
- oliver<br>
<br>
<br>
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