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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: SPV Fee Discovery mechanism
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> If we assume that transactions are being dropped in an unpredictable way
> when blocks are full, knowing the network congestion *right now* is
> critical, and even then you just have to hope that someone who wants that
> space more than you do doesn't show up after you disconnect.
>
Yeah, my proposal is not intended to function correctly with full blocks,
as Bitcoin cannot work at all in such a state. It assumes that fees only
change slowly and that transactions are being cleared normally.
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