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Interesting. I think the original BitDNS discussion was more interesting
that what currently is happening with namecoin, see
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D1790.0

Satoshi said there: "1) IP records don't need to be in the chain, just do
registrar function not DNS.  And CA problem solved, neat."

Besides, ICANN is currently selling out the global public namespace - not
that anybody really cares about such measly topics as the ownership of
global namespaces. And so some guy on the Cayman Islands is now the largest
holder of TLD's.

On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Drak <drak@zikula.org> wrote:
> > The NSA has the ability, right now to change every download of
> bitcoin-qt,
> > on the fly and the only cure is encryption.
>
> Please cut it out with the snake oil pedaling. This is really over the
> top. You're invoking the NSA as the threat here? Okay. The NSA can
> trivially compromise an HTTPS download site: even ignoring the CA
> insecurity, and government run CAs certificate authorities issue CA
> certs to random governments and corporations for dataloss prevention
> purposes. Not to mention unparalleled access to exploits.
>
> The downloads are protected by something far stronger than SSL
> already, which might even have a chance against the NSA. Actual
> signatures of the downloads with offline keys.
>
> I'm all pro-SSL and all that, but you are=97 piece by piece=97 really
> convincing me that it produces an entirely false sense of security
> which is entirely unjustified.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Interesting. I think the original BitDNS discussion was mo=
re interesting that what currently is happening with namecoin, see <a href=
=3D"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D1790.0">https://bitcointalk.o=
rg/index.php?topic=3D1790.0</a> <br>
<br>Satoshi said there: &quot;1) IP records don&#39;t need to be in the cha=
in, just do registrar function not DNS. =A0And CA problem solved, neat.&quo=
t; <br><br>Besides, ICANN is currently selling out the global public namesp=
ace - not that anybody really cares about such measly topics as the ownersh=
ip of global namespaces. And so some guy on the Cayman Islands is now the l=
argest holder of TLD&#39;s.<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 31, 2=
013 at 2:48 PM, Gregory Maxwell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gma=
xwell@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gmaxwell@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Drak &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:drak@zikula.org">drak@zikula.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; The NSA has the ability, right now to change every download of bitcoin=
-qt,<br>
&gt; on the fly and the only cure is encryption.<br>
<br>
</div>Please cut it out with the snake oil pedaling. This is really over th=
e<br>
top. You&#39;re invoking the NSA as the threat here? Okay. The NSA can<br>
trivially compromise an HTTPS download site: even ignoring the CA<br>
insecurity, and government run CAs certificate authorities issue CA<br>
certs to random governments and corporations for dataloss prevention<br>
purposes. Not to mention unparalleled access to exploits.<br>
<br>
The downloads are protected by something far stronger than SSL<br>
already, which might even have a chance against the NSA. Actual<br>
signatures of the downloads with offline keys.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m all pro-SSL and all that, but you are=97 piece by piece=97 really<b=
r>
convincing me that it produces an entirely false sense of security<br>
which is entirely unjustified.<br>
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